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Need suggestions for plants next to school walkway

Posted by david123 4b WI (My Page) on
Mon, May 16, 11 at 17:33

I posted this on the Northern Gardening forum, but thought I would also post my question here. Hope that's OK.

Hello-
I have been in charge of our children's elementary school garden in the front of the building for a few years (it was an absolute mess before then, just not enough volunteers to keep it under control). We received a very generous donation of perennials from a fantastic nursery, and while most survived the winter, many in the front portions of the garden near the sidewalks are gone. There are two reasons why this happened.
1. The snow plows go too far and dug into the front part of the gardens, and
2. Every once in a while, kids do not stay on the sidewalks and trample the ground, especially before something has emerged from the ground. (The kids line up before school right next to the flower gardens).

We cannot use stakes to warn the snow crews to avoid the garden as the principal is worried that the kids will pull them out of the ground and use them as swords (which I kinda can imagine happening :-), but I would love it if we could have some plants in that front 12-18 inches of ground to help keep the weeds down and to beautify the area.

Does anyone have any recommendations of perennials or anything, really, that could handle a snow plow, maybe some deicing salt (I imagine that there is some of that going on), and some trampling by elementary school kids??? It is mostly sunny, if that helps. I am just at a loss as far as what to plant, if anything exists that might even survive these conditions.

Thanks for any input you can provide!


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RE: Need suggestions for plants next to school walkway

That's an interesting challenge!! There are plenty of things that can take plenty of abuse and snap back for more but I'd be more concerned about them taking over so I hope others with more experience will add their ideas to mine. First thing that popped into my head was Achillea/yarrow. As far as I can tell, it's indestructible and tolerates just about the worst conditions without flinching. It can be grown from seed as well rather than purchased at a nursery so it would be economical to grow. Plant care: drought-tolerant, doesn't need pinching, staking, pruning, dead-heading, or dividing.

Another one that seems to mimic yarrow's stamina is ajuga/bugleweed. It's a low-growing (3-5 inches) ground cover that appears to be capable of leaping town lines to root in new territory when everyone is sleeping. It spreads by runners so I can't say whether it can be grown from seed--where I am, I just basically stand back, get out of its way and watch it spread. Plant care: see yarrow above.

Vinca minor/periwinkle is not only tough as nails, tolerates full sun, full shade and everying in between, and grows where nothing else will (including steep hillsides), it has pretty blue flowers in spring and the leaves are dark, shiny green year round. Plant care is limited to admiration from passersby unless it grows where you don't want it.

There's nearly 50 years' worth of vinca, ajuga and yarrow growing on my little green acre so I imagine if you posted a request on craigslist or some such you'd be able to pick up some donated plants that would give you a start.

I'd have mentioned lily-of-the-valley but I consider it invasive and hesitate to recommend it to anyone. It would laugh/sneer at the snowplow, shrug off the salt/sand, pop back up after the kids stomped on it and continue on its mission to take over the planet. The flower fragrance is heavenly but nurseries actually still sell it so you'd not likely get any free. I rip it out of my flowerbeds every year but not gently enough to offer it with roots.


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This is a cool challenge. My pick would be the wild violet Viola sororia. Some call it a weed but I find it attractive. I'm not sure if it is native to your area but it is native to the U.S. and is hardy up to zone 4a. It spreads fast by seed and by division and has pretty flowers in the spring. Another reason I think it may be a good idea is that I'm pretty sure they are not poisonous (some google searches can confirm this). That may an issue with smaller kids. I've read people sometimes add the flowers and leaves to salads. Best of luck to you!

Please let us know what you choose :)

T.J.


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I would use large rock and plant sedum between the rocks. It sounds like you do not have a barrier to prevent damage. I do not think you are going stop the stomping snow movers off the area without some sort of barrier.

Goggle rock garden for some ideas. It can be very attractive and weed free.


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Great suggestions. I could see some yarrow in some of the spots (corners, etc), and I do like the idea of Viola- since it's in the front, a lower plant might be perfect, and a spring bloomer especially as the kids are not in school for later bloomers. Do they take over and harm other plants? I don't think they do, but it is something to ask just in case.

I was thinking of rocks that could be planted with rock garden plants too, however sedum probably won't be a great choice as the bees it attracts will most likely freak the kids out (and worse, some parents) come September when school is back in session. I do have a few sedum in there already (matrona, and a greenish-yellow ground cover one (forgot the name) , but I planted it in the back to avoid "issues". When one parent saw them, they contacted asked the school nurse to check if any kids in the school had bee allergies and I was warned they might need to come out (there are no kids with reported bee allergies, anyway). The whole school grounds are covered in acres of clover, etc, and there are already so many bees around, so it is a bit illogical, however, it is what it is.....

There are a few spots though where I might be able to pile a few rocks and plant other rock garden plants though, but I would have to check first with some people as they are considered "hardscaping" and need permission. Did I mention this is a bit of a challenge ? :-)

Thanks for all your input!


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Well in my yard the wild violet does spread some but I need to mulch my garden this year and I haven't used any herbicides so they basically go unchecked. I don't think they harm any other plants but maybe someone could put in their input.

Good Luck!
T.J.


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You really do have a problem. I would fool them with a lot of small rocks and put in some medium rocks. LOL.

I was thinking the low growing ground cover sedum. There usually not a problem with bees. The ground cover sedum I have does not bloom until school would be out in the summer.

Look at Sedum Tri-color it is very pretty. It is tough and stepping should not be a big problem and it cold stand up to the snow plow.

TRICOLOR Sedum (Stonecrop) Zones 4 to 8, Sun Sage green and snowy-white foliage rimmed in pink or red with, tiny pink flowers bloom in June - July. Low growing, hardy ...


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Ground cover junipers, since I'm probably alone in thinking the *perfect* plant for right there is roses.

Seriously, a fairly large, squat shrub where the actual crown is far away from equipment and feet may be where to start thinking. It doesn't sound like the bed is set up for a tall shrub that could act as it's own warning stakes, but that would be another direction to pursue.


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Plants next to school walkway

I just came from outside and saw my EUONYMUS Gold Splash it is evergreen tough and really pretty. It could take stepping, salt, snow removal etc.

It would need clipping to keep it inbound but you would have color no bee problems.


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Hmmm, so many great suggestions. I am going to have to do some thinking....the remaining budget is super tight (it is money from the PTO), but I am sure I can make something work. I truly appreciate all your comments!


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How good of you to take on this task! Do you have the kids help? (that can be fun too, to run it as an after school activity.)

If there are flat rocks in your area, you could collect some (or alternatively keep an eye out on Craigslist for free used bricks) and use them set hozontally along the edge of the paving as deep as seems necessary (sort of widening the paving.) Leave a couple inches of spacing between the rocks and plant between the rocks with plants that can crawl onto them. That way there would be a sort of transition zone of plants that would survive being walked on since the roots would be protected, but also give a bit of warning to the kids that they were off the standard paving. The rocks or bricks will keep the plow from dropping down into the dirt and uprooting the plants and being flat shouldn't pose too much of a problem for the plow (or at least that's my experience since the plow went right over my flat brick edging a few years.)

Wooly thyme doesn't seem to flower much in my garden, so might work. Some of the shorter Carex (sedges) may work, especially variegated ones like 'Ice Dance.' Astilbe chinensis 'Pumila' grows low and spreads, but flowers in August and doesn't seem to draw bees. Lady's mantle has such subtle flowers that no one will probably notice them, and has both a larger variety and a smaller one. You could also use some shrubby low groundcovers like Paxistma canbyi (no flowers usually), cranberry (tiny flowers), bearberry (Arctostaphylos) or one of the low growing winter heaths or heathers if your soil is a bit acidic. Many heathers have colorful foliage. Just check the flowering time of your particular cultivar and be sure it is during the summer. The shrubby plants you would have to plant back from the sidewalk far enough that the plow and kids won't mangle the center of growth and so that it won't grow onto the sidewalk. I don't know the salt tolerance of most of these since I don't salt the walk, but I do know that heaths and heathers seem to be pretty salt tolerant.

As far as the budget . . . Once you decide on your groundcover, if it is one of the more common ones, you can check with the principal about sending home a request for donations of that type of plant. S/he may be supportive of this.


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We have a similar situation at church and it was solved with blue salvia, maybe May Night and a lemon colored yarrow. Does anyone know the name of that one? IT would be beautiful with some of the common low growing yellow blooming sedum. I have also found Red Huskers penstemon pretty & tough here at home, but I don't know about the salt issue with it..


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I'd be careful with rocks the size they can pick up and throw, and bigger round ones they can easily trip over, how about flat rocks maybe a foot around and bigger they wouldn't think of picking up these. you need a buffer i wouldn't think of adding more plants just to get them trampled on too. maybe a traffic resistant ground cover but that would have to have something to keep it in check. or how about a border of short grasses and ? to keep it interesting and not one straight line. the flat rocks could be painted on with regular acrylic paint then sprayed with a varnish. this would involve the kids and in turn keep them interested in the garden and not stepping in it, but if there's not a whole lot of room the kids are going to keep stepping over into it.


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I think maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, because while everyone is recommending ground covers, my first thought was a hedge of boxwood along the sidewalk. This would keep the kids off the garden, and depending upon how much snowfall you get and how high you keep the hedge, the plows would hopefully see it and not run over/into it. A nice hedge about a foot tall would be enough to delineate and everyone could still see the garden.

Dee


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I like the sedum idea. I have a low-growing green one that takes all sorts of abuse, grows in shade and sun equally well and only occasionally puts out pink flowers. It grows fast and spreads (but not invasively) so its easy to start new plants by sticking a few stems in the soil. I blend mine with a reddish version (dragon's blood?). They look nice growing together.

Kids could pull at it, step on it, etc and it wouldn't phase it in the slightest. Also needs no supplemental care - watering, pruning, deadheading, etc.


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immediately coming to mind after reading some suggestions was Kids and allergies,bees etc. I think the Boxwood or similiar to that would work,and maybe roses.l


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So, what did you plant & how did it do?

In an area at our camp -- rocks didn't work in a shady area outside some restrooms, but raised beds + a plastic chain fence around them did. Not the look I'd like, but it has kept the shrubs & groundcover from being trampled.

Something prickly with all season interest like Berberis with a groundcover and large rocks might work.


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I agree with vinca minor. Tough as nails. We have ours under a huge maple tree on the city easement, city plow comes through every year and this plant thrives. Make sure it's a contained area - don't let it stray. But it has beautiful purple flowers in the spring once it's established. Takes about three years to look really good, but worth the wait. You will have little if any problem with weeds. Kids can walk on it and it won't be a problem. It is also evergreen.

Barberries? Next to a childrens school? I know parents who would have a problem with that. Bob pushes Sue. Sue falls into the barberries, gets scratches all over herself...not a good scenario for small children.

Or, how about Stella D'Oro daylilies? Great for massing.


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