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Sedum is now Hylotelephium??
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Mon, Jun 13, 11 at 0:21
| So, I was doing a search on that site that we aren't allowed to mention *hint hint* and apparently sedum is being classified as hylotelephium now. Does anyone know the reason for this?? Also, it appears that not all species of sedum are included in this new genus, as I didn't see a lot of the spreading varieties when I clicked on the genus hyperlink. |
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RE: Sedum is now Hylotelephium??
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| I'm sure the graduate botanists who churn out these revisions can cite compelling taxonomic reasons, as well as justifications for whatever re-revisions emerge later. I suspect one of them is the need to publish papers to assure one's academic status. The end results of these name changes are often bewildering and in the case of plants like sweet autumn clematis the switcheroos become ludicrous. Rest assured that garden centers and mail-order nurseries are slow to adopt confusing nomenclature changes, and you will find Sedum for sale for a very long time to come. Excuse me, I've got to go pinch my Dendranthemas now, assuming they are not actually Argyranthemums, Leucanthemopsis, Leucanthemums or Rhodanthemums. |
RE: Sedum is now Hylotelephium??
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| sedum is being classified as hylotelephium now And has been for a number of years. And new world asters are now Symphyotrichum, Cimicifuga is now Actaea, Cupressocyparis is now Callitropsis, etc., etc., etc. Taxonomists reclassify and change plant names constantly, based on ongoing research into the plants and their genetic make up. It takes a long time, if ever, for these name changes to filter down into the retail nursery or the gardening world. In most cases, unless you are a taxonomist or botanist, it is unimportant in the overall scheme of things :-) |
RE: Sedum is now Hylotelephium??
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| All I have to say is, if they're going to invent new names, use less letters! There's no need for that many syllables. Sheesh! |
RE: Sedum is now Hylotelephium??
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| What they've done to the Dicentra genus is despicable IMO. |
RE: Sedum is now Hylotelephium??
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| Didn't good old garden mums go full circle from Chrysanthemum through the various other genera and finally back to Chrysanthemum? IIRC, that was the scenario over the last 20 years. As to why the botanists love to do this? Job security? Just to be mean? The Devil Made Me Do It a la Flip Wilson? It can kill with a bloom
It can wound with its leaves
It can ruin your faith with its casual floppiness
And it only reveals what it wants you to see
It hides like an Arisaema,
But is's always a Sedum to me With my deepest apologies to Billy Joel (and the rest of you). |
RE: Sedum is now Hylotelephium??
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| Well, if the name change tomorrow, a sedium will still look and behave like a Sedium, so from a gardner's standpoint, it doesn't matter all that much. Paul |
RE: Sedum is now Hylotelephium??
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| In these parts we just call the whole bunch "never dies"! |
RE: Sedum is now Hylotelephium??
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| As a future landscape architect, should I be learning the new names or stick with the old (aka the names I already know!)? |
RE: Sedum is now Hylotelephium??
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| Just a clarification here. Hylotelephium only applies to a limited number of species, the most commonly encountered of which is H. telephium (Sedum telephium, S. purpureum), among other common names, known as live-forever. As far as I know, all of the small-leaved sedums are still treated in the genus Sedum. |
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| Goghunter, a sedum CAN die. |
RE: Sedum is now Hylotelephium??
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| Eric, I totally agree, it's a bunch of self-important BS, changing the names of plants. There is no need to attach genetic info to plant names. |
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