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Digitalis lanata alert

Posted by aachenelf z5 Mpls, MN (My Page) on
Tue, Jun 24, 14 at 14:00

I just found this article on one of our local TV station websites

"ST. PAUL, Minn. - The Minnesota Department of Agriculture is asking for the public's help in eliminating a toxic weed showing up in eastern parts of Minnesota.
Grecian foxglove is not native to North America. The plant came from central and southern Europe and is known to be growing in parts of Washington, Dakota and Wabasha counties.
Officials say the weed is poisonous, and both fresh and dried plant parts are toxic. The plant's leafy portions could be mistaken for lettuce or other leafy greens."

When I started to do some Googling, I found a seed source claiming the following:

"Holder of the Royal Horticultural Society's prestigious Award of Garden Merit (AGM), this unusual foxglove is well-worth trying in a shady, well-drained spot in the garden."

Has anyone else heard of warning in regards to growing this plant in your state? I don't do foxgloves because they don't survive the winter for me, so I find it very odd this one is becoming a problem in our state. It sure must be hardy. I also find it odd this plant was actually given an award by the RHS. Is it a common occurrence for something considered a noxious weed in one part of the word to by given an award?

It really does have a pretty flower.

Kevin


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I don't do foxglove either, but in surfing the net for plants of interest mainly in the deer resistant category, I ran across this from the MDA.

Here is a link that might be useful: Digitalis Lanata


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There seems to be a lot of 'noxious weeds' in the US which we grow with impunity here. Just this week, I planted an ampelopsis porcelain vine and was amused to find reports bordering on the sort of hysteria we reserve for Japanese knotweed. Whist we might shudder slightly at an outbreak of campanula rapunculoides, we certainly don't label it noxious or invasive....we save that for giant hogweed, rhododendron ponticum, parrotfeather and a slew of other aquatics. Was especially amazed at the attempts to eradicate cytisus in Oregon with broom gall....and even here, on GW, I have been chastised for mentioning certain plants which are regarded as dire and deadly in the US.
As for leaves being mistaken for lettuce (by someone blind and dumb?)... and indeed, the whole poisonous plant fears- I fell about laughing since my garden would be denuded if every toxic plant was removed.
The categories for AGM do not really take toxicity into account, just whether they are good plants inasmuch as anyone can grow them, they have no ridiculous needs and look good in the garden in all states of growth.....and honestly, I would say that d..lanata fits the bill.....but I also wonder if the US is getting into the native plants thing a bit more......deeply..... and their concerns are actually symptomatic of wider, more exclusive, faintly nationalistic concerns - we are certainly seeing a ramping up of paranoia across Europe at the moment....but more focused on human immigrants rather than plant life....although with globalisation and horrible plant diseases (chalara on our ash trees, and phytoptheras on larch and oak,, for example) and various borer insects (I actually found an asian longhorn in my woods), we ought to be more vigilant for non-native diseases and pests.....but foxgloves???.


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I've never been one to graze in my gardens so toxicity isn't a high concern. Invasiveness is something else again - like the purple loosestrife choking much of every watery habitat here or the emerald ash borer affecting a large portion of our tree canopy. My one concession is tackling my nightshades wearing exam room gloves.

I'm spending time reacquainting myself with GW forums beyond Hot Topics and see that people can be as afraid of their plants as they are of offending via personal cleanliness and smell. Think you participated in one of our American obsession to be antiseptic threads. In our confused dalliance in the plant kingdom, I suppose it follows that desired plants be non-toxic, non-thorny, non-smelly, non bee attractive, non this and that so children and pets are perfectly safe. Oh, and maintenance free.

Not a put down. Good information on these forums - much of it imparted through the experience of those who were initially willing to dig a hole and put something in it.


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Perhaps kudzu growing rampant in the southern US has permanently damaged our collective psyche concerning invasive plants.


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duluth - Are you thinking of putting in a Digitalis - all-you-can-eat buffet garden for the deer? Maybe some blinking "Deer Welcome" signs? Sorry, couldn't resist.

Campanula - You bring up some good points. I guess you're right about the garden award thing. How could any organization possibly take into account how a plant is going to behave throughout the world?

Toxicity - I don't know about that one. Yes, the statement about this possibly being mistaken for lettuce is pretty darned ridiculous, but if indeed this plant or any non-native plant is poisonous to livestock when eaten, that can be a pretty big darned deal around here. We do raise a lot of critters. I guess the question would be how poisonous? Drop dead poisonous or just kind of upset stomach poisonous?

I understand what you're saying about the nationalistic concerns and Lord knows we do have a segment of our population completely engulfed in the nationalistic thing - not necessarily over plants however. For me, if that's what's going on when it comes to protecting native plants - it doesn't bother me. Protect away. It's not like we don't have a bazillion other options as to what we can grow in the garden.

Duluth mentioned the loosestrife problem. Then there's the buckthorn problem. If you've ever seen a beautiful, natural wooded area completely engulfed in that crap to the point where almost nothing else low to ground can grow because it just can't compete - well, it's pretty darned heartbreaking. Buckthorn is certainly on our States Invasive Plant list, so I'll stay away from anything else they put there to.

Kevin


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So far no deer this season - this past winter was so endlessly cold and the snow so deep (worse up here than in the Cities), much of the herd likely met with wipe-out. So I'll enjoy their absence as long as it lasts... they're bound to rebound... without the need for digitalis.


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I cannot say I entirely blame them for shouting in an alarmist fashion--I have lost count how many times in the Name That Plant forum I have read "...What is this plant? The berries taste kind of ...." Seriously, they taste berries of plants they have not identified! And if the toxicity of a plant can be absorbed through the skin, well, I'd like to know that before handling it in the garden or where it has naturalized.

It can take a long, long time for the general public to become aware. There is a plant that grows in parts of California with pretty purple-flowers. This is a native plant, not something that was introduced. Yet, many people that have lived here for an extended amount of time, and explore the wilder areas of the state, still aren't aware of the consequences of cuddling up to Poodle-dog.

And the learning curve of the public for introduced plants is probably much slower than for natives. I don't know if the introduction of this plant is as serious as they make it sound, but thinking that it has anything to do with "...their concerns are actually symptomatic of wider, more exclusive, faintly nationalistic concerns..." has me wondering about the toxicity level of the Hot Topic forums. lol


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"toxicity level of the Hot Topic forums. It's a good forum for those not intimidated by the occasional thorn, or stinging bee, or angry toxic sap.


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There was a story about this plant on the local news tonight. The filming was done at one of our nature conservancies and showed an actual field of this stuff. It was really beautiful, but clearly this isn't a case of a few plant here and there. At this conservancy at least, it grows so well it's crowding out native species.

According to the naturalist who only wears protective gloves when pulling the plant, some people are very sensitive to the toxins which can be absorbed through the skin and heart problems can be the result.

The general consensus seems to be this was a plant in someones garden and it escaped.

It still blows my mind there is a digitalis out there that apparently doesn't need coddling and will grow with abandon in Minnesota. Not my experience AT ALL.

Kevin

This post was edited by aachenelf on Wed, Jun 25, 14 at 4:34


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I think scotch thistle was brought over here by the ornamental trade. I spend several days a year grubbing it out of the front 5 acres. I spent a lot of money getting rid of Quinoa akbea that was strangling a bunch of trees in some land that I shared with my sisters in Pennsylvania and we all lived far away. It was way into the canopies of trees and had a 3 acre spread and branches were breaking, trees dying.

One thing to think about in comparing Europe to the US is the amount of wild land that isn't gardened and this land can be invaded. I live close to a 3000 acre park, and a couple 8000 acre ranches. No one is out their weeding. Invasives are a problem. They blow in from the suburbs. They get brought in in hay bales. That is how I got Johnson grass. Birds bring vine berries.Yellow star malta thistle has taken over 15 million acres in California and it causes horses to get a neurological condition that keeps them from swallowing so they chew and chew and die of starvation. IyT is in the cattle guard and on my list to poison.

One can drive through States and states of Kudzo and then one enters the Mile a minute hanging forests of west virginia,virginia and Kentucky and then the Appalachians full of multiflora rose and Jappanese knotweed. It is sad to see the landscape in distress.

I have an fragrant mimosa in my yard. It is a native and it Makes A LOT of seed but there's a bug that lives and bores into almost every seed and lays an egg or something in each one. I would not advise taking it to England without a good population of that bug. It is hard to pull out with a wicked deep root and spreads by its root too. It is in balance here, and I love its fragrance, but I can see that if that bug wasn't here, it would be a bugger.

The thing about invasive lists is they are the plants that are already out of the gate. The ones that are just gathering steam have not been addressed. It gets so confusing because a plant van be a real problem in one place and not be a problem 20 miles away.Globalization with its ease of shipping plant material and the stepped up pace of plant introduction of these last decades is going to bite us in the @ss.


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