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Helenium - possibly mislabled?

Posted by aachenelf z5 Mpls, MN (My Page) on
Wed, Jul 30, 14 at 10:24

This past spring I ordered a few new Helenium from Forest Farm - nice plants by the way. These 2 are currently blooming and I'm wondering if they aren't the same. They sure look similar to me. Maybe someone who grows these could give me their advice. I've labeled the photos - Helenium #7 and Helenium #8.

#7 came to me as Helenium Mariachi Siesta
#8 came to me as Helenium Mariachi Salsa

Any thoughts? Do you think I should contact Forest Farms? Or is it a case where the 2 are simply very similar in color?

Kevin


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RE: Helenium - possibly mislabled?

  • Posted by dbarron Z6/7 (Oklahoma) (My Page) on
    Wed, Jul 30, 14 at 13:38

I'm thinking mislabel, but that's just a gut feeling.


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RE: Helenium - possibly mislabled?

Looks like you've tried to standardize the photography for the two images, Kevin.

How are the two cultivars supposed to differ?

How much variability is there in petal colour and frilling and cone colours within the cultivars 'Siesta' and 'Salsa' and do the ranges overlap?

It's frustrating that on-line plant descriptions are invariably partial. You're given certain information for one cultivar, but not for another related one. I guess they just tell you what they think will make you buy.

Have read that 'Siesta' is the reddest of all the Helenium cultivars with blue rather than yellow contributing to the overall petal colour. Sounds like it should sell!

The plants in the images appear quite similar, but they could be different!


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RE: Helenium - possibly mislabled?

I should have also added, the 2 plants are growing a few feet apart, so basically the same conditions. I took the photos minutes apart and did not change the camera settings from one plant to the other.

The only difference is that plant #8 started blooming about a week later than #7.

Kevin


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RE: Helenium - possibly mislabled?

  • Posted by dbarron Z6/7 (Oklahoma) (My Page) on
    Wed, Jul 30, 14 at 16:23

I think they both look more like siesta than salsa (based on online photos)...though neither is absolutely identical to any other (lol).


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RE: Helenium - possibly mislabled?

Perennials.com says that 'Salsa''s bloom time begins in early summer, while the bloom times of the other Mariachi series Helenium, including 'Siesta', begin in mid summer.

What to believe?
For instance; the Perennial.com image of 'Siesta' doesn't look like 'Siesta' at all.


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