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Whats your best & worst echinaceas

thahalibut
13 years ago

I bought a few last year & it feels like I wasted my $$ on most of them. I want to buy more, but good ones this time.

Comments (16)

  • echinaceamaniac
    13 years ago

    Best:
    'PowWow Wild Berry'
    'Tennesseensis'
    'Pink Double Delight'
    'Pica Bella'
    'Hot Papaya'
    'Avalanche'
    'Fragrant Angel'
    'Flame Thrower'

    Worst:
    'Tangerine Dream'
    'Mac'n Cheese'
    'Maui Sunshine'
    'Harvest Moon'
    'Sundown'
    'Sunrise'

  • pippi21
    13 years ago

    Clint, can you tell us why those are on your worst list? What did they do wrong?

  • echinaceamaniac
    13 years ago

    They either didn't grow well here or had deformed blooms.

  • echinaceamaniac
    13 years ago

    They either didn't grow well here or had deformed blooms.

  • mayhem69
    13 years ago

    Ones that are doing great for me are
    Magnus
    Harvest Moon
    Summer Sky
    Pink Poodle
    White Swan
    Meringue
    Mac N Cheese (slowest grower), but worth it

    Not so good would be
    After Midnight (missing petals)
    Pink Double Delight (good last yr. but now looks awful)
    Tomato Soup (small flowers that often look deranged)

    Also, this would depend hugely on where you have them planted and soil conditions.

  • thahalibut
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    """"Also, this would depend hugely on where you have them planted and soil conditions""""
    Yea I am learning that the hard way. My list would be.

    Good
    Magnus
    Alba

    Bad
    After Midnight - came back smaller then last year & barely a plant
    Harvest moon - color fades, bloom not uniform & petals burns in our sun of 98+
    Pink dbl delight - nice bloom but falls over badly
    Prairie Splendor - spindly
    White swan - color fades & petals burns in our sun of 98+
    Summer sky - loved it, then the petals FRIED in our heat
    Sunrise - never came back from last year

    can any of your good ones take 100+ degree dry heat?

  • redsox_gw
    13 years ago

    Pink Double Delight: it is delightful, but floppy as thahalibut said. Is there a reason it flops over so badly? Can anyone think of a non-obtrusive was to hold them up?

  • echinaceamaniac
    13 years ago

    I just stick a small bamboo cane under mine. However, mine isn't flopping this year. I planted mine next to Meringue and they kind of hold each other up.

  • kentstar
    13 years ago

    Tomato Soup didn't make it over winter. It was such a beauty though, too bad.

    Mac and Cheese, don't waste your money! Deformed buds, stunted, and just an awful grower for me. I shovel pruned it this year finally after trying for two years, and threw it on the driveway! lol

    Aftermidnight great plant! No problems at all yet.

    Tiki Torch, finally full of buds and starting to bloom after 3 years! I bought it when I bought Mac and Cheese, and it's outdoing Mac for sure.

  • Bumblebeez SC Zone 7
    13 years ago

    I really like Ruby Star and White Swan.
    Magnus and Kim's Knee High are just as profuse and good looking but the color of Ruby Star is my favorite.
    Razzmattaz blooms very well too and not floppy but it isn't a big plant after 5 years or so and it should be.

  • kowalleka
    13 years ago

    Best:
    'Virgin'
    'Pink Double Delight'
    'Fragrant Angel'
    'Ruby Star'
    'Milkshake'
    'Tomato Soup'
    'Rocky Top'
    'Harvest Moon'
    'Mars'

    Worst:
    'Mac'n Cheese' - puny, doesn't grow
    'Sundown' - deformed flowers
    'Sunrise' - deformed flowers
    'Sunset' - deformed flowers
    'Twilight' - deformed flowers
    'Tiki Torch' - puny, doesn't grow

    Just got Flame Thrower, PowWow Wild Berry and Pink Poodle this year. Will hold off my opinion until I see if they overwinter or bloom.

  • pippi21
    13 years ago

    It is interesting to read the different list..and to know that what grows well for some, doesn't for others. Don't you think a lot has to do with many different factors? Soil condition, type of soil planted into, light location, watering practices to mention a few of the things. Gardening is all about Trial and Error and how patient a gardener you are.

  • kentstar
    13 years ago

    It's funny, my Tiki Torch was puny until this year. Now it's getting big and has loads of buds on it. I think most just need time to grow a better root system before taking off, and that sometimes means no growing above ground for the first year much. Now, Mac and Cheese, that's a different ballgame. Bad performer all the way around!

  • hostared
    13 years ago

    Best
    Fatal Attraction.
    Dark stems...deep color.
    Never fails me.

    Worse.
    Sunrise series.

  • jan44
    12 years ago

    These have all winterkilled on me - I'm almost ready to give up.

    coconut lime
    sundown
    tangerine dream
    pink poodle

    these are left:
    primadonna
    double decker

  • boday
    12 years ago

    I'll chime in on the echinaceas
    Good
    Magnus
    Meringue
    Milkshake
    Hot Papaya
    Pow wow
    Bad
    Mac n Cheese
    Pink Poodle
    Sundowner Series

    I might sound like I'm preaching but I feel the MAJOR problem other than bad plants is that people let the plants bloom too much the first year. The plants expend so much energy blooming that there is little left for root development.

    At the least the flowers should be deadheaded mid September to let the plants store up strength for the winter. I normally let one or two flowers grow the first year and ruthlessly eviscerate all other buds.

    Another solution is at least monthly after watering, spray the plants with a solution of 10 52 15 fertilizer - the center high number helps develop roots.

    A third is when planting add MYKE - it's a symbiotic fungus that helps root development as well. Should be available at your Garden Cemter. People are so enamored with with the beauty of the plants that they give them little chance of survival

    I feel that the truism - sleep, creep, leap as in root development - has been short circuited in the new echinaceas. It's the instant gratification syndrome.

    Hope this is of use, sometimes you just get bad plants especially the first few years of the latest and greatest.