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HD stepping up their game...

Posted by christinmk z5b eastern WA (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 26, 14 at 16:32

I'm rather impressed with the plants HD is stocking nowadays. I had to go there for something today and ((naturally)) stopped by the garden center. Impressive!

They had Mercury Rising Coreopsis and another I think was Full Moon. Digiplexis 'Illumination Flame', Sombrero Coneflowers, Agastache 'Blue Boa' (almost got this guy- may regret passing it up), an incredible array of ornamental grasses, and a few other neat things peppered in.

They had a fabulous Hesperaloe parviflora, but it was a little much for me (considering I don't have a spot in mind for it)- $25 for a 6gal.

Lowes has an lackluster selection of perennials, tho this spring they had some nice Monrovia evergreens/shrubs and grasses.

I picked up a few 'Northern Lights' Deschapsia at HD. Those things are awesome. One of the few plants I hae ever done multiples of! Lol.

How about you guys? Find anything interesting at the box stores this year?
CMK


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RE: HD stepping up their game...

Christin, now you've gone and done it, I'll have to go have a look at our local HD LOL.
I did pick up Agastache 'Blue Boa' when doing my annual august perennial prowl at a favorite nursery, it really caught my eye covered with honey bees, these have been noticeably absent around here the last few years, just the odd one. Lots of other bees tho.

Annette


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-Annette, I will be interested to hear if your HD is carrying nice items as well, or if it seems to be mine in particular.

I'm already starting to wonder if I should have picked up a BB! There is a spot in the back AND front it would look good. LOL.
CMK


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  • Posted by morz8 Z8 Wa coast (My Page) on
    Tue, Aug 26, 14 at 19:09

I wonder if it isn't just certain HD's....I was in mine yesterday for some spackle, caulk and walked through the garden section. Dismal, although they did have the Northern Lights. Most everything was dry, untended.

I was trying to condense errands and needed a large bag of potting soil, couldn't find a quality at HD to tempt me. Almost every pallet had a broken bag so I was able to do a handful squeeze and sniff test, but passed them up and made a second stop where I found Gardner and Bloome in stock.

There was quite a large supply of young common boxwood that seemed well rooted if someone were doing a border, knot garden or something, $6.98 ea. I look but rarely buy plants at box stores, I would rather support nurseries....and do my share of that.


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I got a gorgeous Meyer lemon at HD today, only $22.92. I'm thrilled ! A huge blue resin pot is on the way from Amazon for its permanent home.


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Haven't been to HD or Lowe's since I lost my job a few years ago but couldn't resist variegated hakone grass earlier this year at a local nursery, along with a vivid purple astilbe at a new nursery about 8 miles from me along with five (count 'em: 5) strawberry pink 'Galaxy' heucheras (sorry--Google didn't have an image).

To be fair, I picked up quite a few peonies at HD about 8 years ago and they're healthy plants that produce multiple blooms every year.


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i should get this story verified since it's been quite a few yrs now since a very knowledgeable young nurseryman named Sean (Conway?) closed his small R.I. business and purportedly went to be the National Buyer for HD (or Lowes; not sure.)
I think the knowledge is def there for whoever their buyers are. We bought a 15 gal boxed Albizia Chocolate to try ( a second time; now will be in a smart location instead of a stupid one) at HD last month for $70. Since it's survival is quite iffy, we feel so lucky to have come upon it, because we WERE going to take the same chance with a Broken Arrow one for 3x more! We still get 90% of our plants from small growers, incl Broken Arrow.

Here is a link that might be useful: cotton-arbo retum website; free; open daily


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Not around here. A lot of junk and stuff that is not winter hardy.


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Find anything interesting at the box stores this year?

This past early summer I picked up some PW annuals. But I have never seen any perennials of any consequence at HD or Lowes. It seems to me they stock the very basics ie coneflower, Rozanne Geranium, Rudbeckia Goldsturm etc.


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Sorry, this is a hijack, but it's something that probably we are all interested in...

I read something disturbing about big box plants this spring, which is that they are likely to be treated with neonicotinoids. What really knocked my socks off is that once a plant is treated, it goes on to be lethal to bees throughout its lifespan, offering up pollen and nectar that contains harmful levels of the pesticide. Ack!

I thought that I could do my part by simply never using pesticides, but it sounds like if a plant was treated with neonicotinoids before you get it can be a continual hazard, right there in your own carefully-tended garden!

I need to learn more about this topic, and I know there is a lot of controversy. (Bayer, who makes and sells the compounds, says they are safe, so they must be, right?) But I have vowed to read up on this by next spring's plant-buying season.

I linked what appears to be a well-balanced research piece. But it does not mention the idea of plants that are already treated when you buy them. Does anyone know more about this?

Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.xerces.org/neonicotinoids-and-bees/


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once a plant is treated, it goes on to be lethal to bees throughout its lifespan, offering up pollen and nectar that contains harmful levels of the pesticide.

AMAZING ... it becomes capable creating a never-ending supply of it from .... what? By what mechanism?

Can you point to the actual research that shows that a mature plant will have any quantity of a topical insecticide that was used on it as a seedling?

Or at least the tinfoil hattery you saw the claim in?


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And note that your link is to an article that begins with this: "A possible link between neonicotinoids and honey bee die-offs has led to controversy across the United States and Europe."

There's a HUGE problem with that "possible link" that has to be explained away before I'll even begin to worry:

Europe banned neonics several years ago and STILL has a problem with CCD.
Australia uses neonics and has had NO CCD yet.

So, it's apparently something else ... like maybe something that's in other countries and not Australia ... like maybe whatever is in this picture.


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Goodness gracious Lazygardens, OK already.

I said I am still learning about the topic. I said it's controversial. I posted a link that looks credible. No need to jump down my throat about it.

And to answer your question in your first response I did post a link to where the info came from, which I read carefully so as not to pass along bad information. Your calling that 'tinfoil hattery' seems inflammatory. Maybe read what I posted before jumping straight to potentially insulting language?


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Karin I heard about this too... there was a petition on change.org asking them to stop using sprays in their garden center.

I don't know much about it myself but I have decided to shop at family owned places just to be safe... it's not worth the risk for me. And then I can support local shops instead so it's a win win.

Here is a link that might be useful: Petition Link


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I do not live in an extra small town, yet we only have one nursery. What I have noticed is that HD has been stocking more low water plants. I guess I should have mentioned I live in California. The nursery has done nothing different since the drought. They seem to cater to landscapers. In fact, they no longer sell annuals. I would like to shop at the nursery as I live quite close to it but they never have plants I need or want.


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Thanks 'thegardenat902,' the research summary from your link was helpful and had some good references that I can use for more follow up.

Emmarene, too bad your local nursery is tone deaf to what a regular customer might want. That's supposed to be the whole point in dealing with an independent business. Oh well, at least your local HD is getting the message with drought tolerant plants.


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Not to mention that HD thinks they may have been hacked--since Spring. It's been in the news the last few days seems like a good reason to cut up some of my plastic.


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Big box stores and that includes HD buy their plants from many wholesale growers. Their plants are not better or worse than the average retail nursery. Generally speaking the plants after arriving at the retail location are not as well cared for in the big box stores as in the average retail nursery, so it behooves the buyer to be selective with his purchases. Al


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karin - I'm happy you posted what you did. Actually, when this thread started I was going to post something similar, but never got around to it.

It still is a very controversial subject, but earlier this year it made the local news around here. A couple of our largest, local nurseries (not big box stores) were interviewed about the subject and they said they've been debating the issue in-house for some time and decided to go ahead with banning neonicotinoids as much as possible with the plants they sell and grow.

In doing a bit of Googling I did find the follow article which might have some more weight behind it because of where it's coming from. Take a look if you like.

I'm not a big HD shopper when it comes to plants, so this isn't a terribly big issue for me. Every time I'm in that store and see how cheaply they can sell their plants, I wonder "how can they do this?" In a way I'm kind of afraid of what the answer might be because I don't think the answer will be one I like.

Kevin

Here is a link that might be useful: Bees


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Kevin, that is a nice article and is just the type of source that I usually try to find. Thank you!

So far I've read through it all quickly and it seems level-headed with some handy, specific recommendations, such as plants in flats are OK, and perennials and shrubs maybe not, but there are things you can do (run water through the pot for 10 minutes; snip off flowers the first year). So thanks for sharing this, much appreciated!

This evening I was lounging on the back deck and a honeybee flew right over and landed on me and hung out for awhile. That was a nice little moment!


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