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Where is the best place to go for ideas on combining?
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Posted by tammyinwv z6/WV (My Page) on Tue, Oct 20, 09 at 10:23
I have a lot to learn about combining plants for color,bloom,interest etc.And landscaping with plants. I am checking out "The Well tended Perennial Garden" from the library. Are there other links or books with photos that you can recommend? I like looking at the photo's on here, such as Mollydog's.
Tammy |
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RE: Where is the best place to go for ideas on combining?
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| The Walters Gardens website(s) have some suggested companion plants, but the problem I have with most of the industry's information is that they typically only promote other plants that they grow. Of course, you can use their suggestions as a starting point. In addition, photographs of the actual combinations are rare. I have found the most inspiring source is to visit other gardens in your area. That way, you can see, touch, feel, etc. and observe all the variables "in action". Be sure to return later in the year to see how the combination looks in a different season. There are a couple of good books, but I will have to check my "library" this evening! ;) |
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| Lots! Pretty much any gardening book that is heavy into photos will provide sources of inspiration. I especially like the Ken Druse series - 'The Natural Garden', 'The Collector's Garden', 'The Natural Shade Garden', etc. Lots of great eye candy :-) Also Thomas Hobbs' 'Shocking Beauty', Anna Pavord's 'Plant Partners', Taunton Publications 'Designer Plant Combinations'. Fine Gardening magazine always has a featured plant combo in each issue as well. And if you like 'The Well-Tended Perennial Garden', check out the companion book, 'The Well-Designed Mixed Garden. |
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| One of my favourite books is Colsten Burrell's "Perennial Combinations" - I never get tired of it. |
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| I agree with Coolplantsguy and Gardengal48 above. The most valuable lessons that I have ever learned have come from visiting other gardens, lots of gardens, and taking notes, taking photos, and visiting gardens again at different times of the year. Reading garden books and looking at photos in books, too. It's great for ideas, and from those ideas, more ideas come to mind. That, and time spent working in, observing, and trying out your ideas in your garden. This is what an education of a gardener is all about. |
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Thanks guys. I am going to be checking into those references. I dont know of any local gardens as we live in the country, but I will see what i can find for next yr. Are there any good online resources? Tammy |
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| Yes, Anna Pavord's Plant Partners is a great one. Another one I like, is Color by design by Nori and Sandra Pope. The new RHS Encyclopedia of Perennials contains a few interesting combinations, but is obviously intended primarily to be of other use. |
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| John's recommendations are right on. Before I pass on any of my gardening magazines, I tear out ideas that appeal to me and save in a folder. It has gotten quite large over the years. I referenced in my October Garden posting Continuous Bloom by Pam Duthie. I have to admit, in the end I do what makes my garden feel right for me. I believe gardening is a very personal extension of ourselves, and if it pleases you, then it's right. |
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| Nancy Ondra has a couple of great blogs, Hayefield House and Gardening Gone Wild, plus links to many others. She lives in Pennsylvania, you might have similar growing conditions. I love her combinations, she likes grasses and shrubs and large plants, which pushes my buttons. |
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| Thanks Prairiegirl. I didn't know about the blog...going to check it out now. |
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| well tammy ... your garden is the best place ... you buy things that please you ... then you plant them.. then you move them around ad nauseum .... 'planning' is a preface to gardening ... just do it... live and learn.. get dirty ... trust me.. the best plan.. lasts about one minute after you plant the garden.. then come experience.. and real gardening .... local garden tours are also a boon to local creativity .... good luck ken |
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| Ken, my theory exactly. I'm the dirty old woman of the neighborhood. |
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| The best place to go for ideas is your own head. Combining plants is not rocket science. Some of the best combinations are accidental, while deliberate attempts fall flat. Visiting others' gardens (including botanical gardens) and reading garden books are two standard and rich sources of ideas. What I've never understood is why people would use detailed planting schemes diagrammed in books and articles, or even buy collections from nurseries with detailed planting instructions. Why would you want to copy over what someone else decided on? |
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eric_oh, I agree. I have freq seen these "kits" where everything is all layed out for you. Diagrams, certain seeds or plants etc. I am not interested in that. It just seems that for years I buy a plant or start one, and then just find an empty space in my bed and stick it in.With the only thought was to height. I try to put taller stuff to the back in this raised bed. But then again, I see pictures where there are taller things interspersed that look fantastic.I guess what I need to do now is be more observant and keep track of when things bloom. I did do a fairly detailed map of the bed this summer thru fall.But never thought to keep a log about when things are blooming.After thinking about it more, Ken is probably right. I just need to do more planning.Its nice to look at pics posted and see that certain things look fabulous together. Prairiegirl, I started reading on the blogs. Sure is a lot there. thanks Tammy |
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| In regards to "copying" what others have done, I have no problems following the examples of Piet Oudolf, Ken Druse (in their books or elsewhere) and others. As for the detailed layouts, that might be helpful for some, but not all. ;) |
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| I study those detailed layouts - the ones Bluestone has in their website are particularly good. http://www.bluestoneperennials.com/b/bp/layouts.html?picture=border%2ejpg&garden_name=Border Garden&code=BORDER&pdf=%2fpdf%2fbordergarden%2epdf But I use them to get ideas and use a lot of substituting. By looking at the diagrams and then at each plant used, it gives me ideas of plant shapes and foliage colors that look great together that I may not have thought of on my own. So I wouldn't ever get one and use it exactly - I want some of "me" to be in that garden, both the good me and the bad me, lol! |
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| It should be mentioned that the most important factor to consider when combining plants is not plant height, leaf shape, bloom time/color etc. - cultural factors are crucial to success. You could decide, for instance, that Ligularia 'Desdemona' would provide a great contrast next to Russian sage (Perovskia atriplicifolia). However these plants need different growing conditions and it's unlikely you'll get them both to flourish in the same spot. Knowing what your plants need is paramount when planning a perennial layout. |
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| "I'm the dirty old woman of the neighborhood." Hee hee, thanks for the laugh mollydog! Tammy~Glad I could help! During a long, cold winter, the blogs help me get through it. I do make lots of plans then, but as Ken says, I move everything around once it gets planted, when I get a better idea of how things look, or maybe just a better idea period, LOL. |
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| But never thought to keep a log about when things are blooming If you keep a webshots or photobucket or other online account (I know you do), go back to the 'details' of your pictures to see the dates when the pix were taken. From that you can move things around in your garden for your favorite looks. My old camera had a great date-stamp feature that was right on the pic, but my new one doesn't have the option, so I find the details invaluable when checking stuff like that (or nosing into gorgeous photos of other posters to see what camera & settings they used to get that great shot). Gotta love the digital age! |
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Proven Winners' website has a perennials section. If you click into anything that interests you, then click on the 'images' tab above the picture, there are pictures of it combined with other things. For instance, I just looked at Pagoda Pink Columbine and in the images tab, they combine it with some Viola (I think), and in another pic, they have it with a dark heuchera. Gives you some real nice pics for inspiration. |
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| The cottage garden forum has lots of wonderful pictures in their gallery and throughout the site. |
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| Thanks for all the great info. I didnt know about provenwinners until you sent the link. I have to go back and look at it some more. My webshots account is totally disorganized. I would like to have time this winner to start a blog, simply to post the info you mentioned. I noticed recently my daughters like using my webshots as well,lol. Patlovesdirt, tahts a great idea. I hadnt thought of using those plans that way. flowergirlwa8 , I found those today, and started skimming thru some. I knew I could count on GW members to come up with lots of fantastic ideas. Tammy |
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| I tend to look at British, rather than American magazines for ideas. I know this sounds strange climate-wise, but those magazines tend to provide "big views" of the gardens instead of tight photos of plant combinations. Not that I have any problems with tight shots, it's just that I like to see plants in context with the overall garden. Since I contend with full sun and lots of deer, I tend to look at the plant combination recipes (like the special edition mags from Fine Living) for color ideas, not plant selection. This fall, I decided to convert a holding bed in my garden to a purple and orange garden. The orange asclepias tuberosa and some purple agastache that were in the holding bed provided the catalyst for the color scheme. I rounded up plants from other areas in my garden, so I only bought a few bulbs and flower seeds. I take a lot of photos, so I looked through photos by bloom date and color and put them side-by-side to see if I liked them together. Then, I started rearranging the space. Here's my "story board" that I put together before I started transplanting: Cameron |
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Cameron, I think I visited your blog last night when I couldnt sleep and saw this storyboard. It is a fantastic idea to preview plants together. Much the same way as a decorator.That looks like it will be a striking combinations. I have to bookmark your site. Tammy |
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| Tammy - I do this all the time to figure out which plants work together. Since this garden was put together by shuffling plants that I already had, I knew the bloom times based upon photo dates. When it comes to the arrangement though, I have to feel my way through that when planting. Glad the blog is of interest to you. It's just my experience, mostly with deer resistant gardening. There are many perennials that I would love to grow, but I have learned to accept the fact that I will always have deer here. |
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Lol, Cameron. I still havent gotten to the acceptance phase yet, and I have lived her since 1980. Occasionally I will spray a homemade concoction that really does a good job keeping them away, or just put up with it. The only drawback to the homemade stuff, is that once the deer realize it has gotten washed away, they start eating again. But sometimes I can get a month or so without having to do it again. tammy |
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| Depending on the look you want... gardens might give you idea for informal combination depending on which type they are. For a more formal look, you can driver around golf courses, expensive apartment or condominium complexes. You will see lots of combinations and some might please you. Note that the plants might not have been started at the same time. |
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| I just finished reading "Succession Planting for year round pleasure" by Christopher Lloyd. He's British, so his plant selections don't work too well in my California garden but his ideas and methods are fabulous as are the pictures. He shows one section of the garden 6 times during the year and how he's planted so it always has color. He layers plants, uses bulbs overplanted with perennials, picks plants for 3 season color and many other ideas. I actually read the book twice straight through - once to read it and once to take notes. It was at my library. Well worth checking out. |
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| I just wanted to second mollydog's suggestion of Pam Duthie's book. I'm a reader, anyway, and I just love to read garden books from my own library as well as those from the public library. Can never have too many garden books. Eric_oh's suggestion of combining plants with the same cultural requirements cannot be stressed too much. I find that many books or magazines have lovely pics. of plant groupings that I know do NOT like the same growing conditions. If you select plants that like the same conditions, "voila", they often look wonderful and very natural together. Nature's magic. |
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