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planting perennials frost

mitzu
17 years ago

I ordered various perennials for Fall planting and they just arrived. Here in Timmins, Ontario our temperatures are at the freezing point and lower overnight at this time of year. Can I still plant? Some of the plants I received are: Giant Snowball Bush, Windflowers, Raspberries, Astiblles, Geranimum...to name a few.

Should I plant them against the house (warmer) and then just transplant in the Spring?

Thanks for any help anyone can give me.

Gloria

Comments (12)

  • nancyd
    17 years ago

    Rule of thumb for new fall plantings is to be in the ground at least 4-6 weeks before your first frost. I think it's too late to plant directly in the ground now by the sound of your weather. Do you have a cold room or garage that doesn't freeze? I bring semi-hardy plants into my unheated sunroom each fall. Then come spring transfer your perennials out into the garden once the ground is workable and sun is strong. It doesn't need to be warm. Perennials can tolerate cooler spring temps if they've been acclimated to them. You'll essentially be "hardening" yours off for spring planting in your cold room.

  • mitzu
    Original Author
    17 years ago

    I do have a garage and also a cold storage room in the basement. So do I leave them in their ball of soil and the plastic bag that's wrapped around them? and do I water them throughout the winter?

  • triciami5
    17 years ago

    I just transplanted some phlox, and I always put soil that I buy in the bag around them, mainly to keep them from heaving out of the ground. I have done that for years and so far have not lost anything, but our area may be a little different than yours. Usually will do this to any new plants at the same time as I mound the roses, to be on the safe side. Even put some on the top of them too. I just walk around with a shovel full of dirt and throw it on. Also you can put leaves on first and then some dirt on for added protection I have done that also. Mark them so you know for sure where they are. Usually the mound helps too. Good luck. Tricia

  • laceyvail 6A, WV
    17 years ago

    What kind of nursery would ship plants to zone 2-3 this time of year?

  • deeje
    17 years ago

    I questioned that too, laceyvail, and then I re-read the original post. If the nursery actually called the plant "Giant Snowball Bush" I think we can guess which company it is.

    (or should I say companies -- different names on the catalogs, same parent)

    Gloria, I would keep the plants in the garage. Just how cold your garage gets will determine how you want to treat them. You may want to nestle them inside a lawn & leaf bag full of leaves and then place that bag in the warmest part of your garage (keep that bag, and the packaging, open so that they're not suffocating when they break dormancy).

    If it's a warmer garage, like mine, it's different. Often I can simply pot them up, give them one good drink, and call it good till spring. I do this successfully with perennials on which I've pushed the zone a bit too much - pot 'em up in the fall and move them into a corner of the garage until March.

    Good luck; I hope your plants make it through okay!

  • mitzu
    Original Author
    17 years ago

    Thanks everyone for all your help!! I don't really want to mention the nursery because I don't want to give them any negativity...they're a great company and have great plants. They told me to return the plants.....but I really want them....it'll be my gardening challenge. I do hope they survive though!

  • oldroser
    17 years ago

    Actually I think it's 6 weeks before the ground freezes. Suspect you will be better off planting them and then applying mulch to keep them from frost heaves.

  • taryn
    17 years ago

    Yes, 4-6 weeks before the ground freezes solid, not before the first frost. I would definitely plant them. You'll be rewarded next spring! :)

    Taryn

  • mitzu
    Original Author
    17 years ago

    We just had a major snow storm here...I just can't see me going outside and planting LOL.....I think maybe my best option it returning them...unless they'll survive in my cold storage room, but I'll have to wait and see what the nursery says. They have a guarantee and it'll be void if I don't follow their instructions. Thanks for all the help everyone has been giving me. Hopefully I do get to keep them!

  • laceyvail 6A, WV
    17 years ago

    Mitzu, don't order from that nursery anymore. There are great nurseries out there, and you'll get better quality plants shipped at the correct time.

  • nancyd
    17 years ago

    I hope you can return them. This is not an opportune time to plant. I respectfully disagree with the comments above. Up here, our ground may not freeze "solid" until mid or late December. Going by that rule I could still plant into November and I would never transplant that late - esp. new perennials. We try to get all our perennials transplanted shortly after Labor Day. You can push it, but the weather is too unpredictable and and I don't plant past mid-October. The exception are bulbs which you can plant up until the ground is frozen. The safe rule is 4-6 weeks before your first hard frost for perennials. Call your local cooperative extension and see what they recommend for your area.

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