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Echinacea- cut back in fall or leave till spring?

Posted by kentstar 5b, NE Ohio (My Page) on
Fri, Nov 6, 09 at 18:20

What works better? Does leaving the foilage till spring help protect the plant better?

Thanks,
kentstar


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RE: Echinacea- cut back in fall or leave till spring?

I never cut mine back. I save what seed I want and leave the rest for the birds.
Tammy


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RE: Echinacea- cut back in fall or leave till spring?

The foliage is best left to the spring IMHO. In regard to the seed heads they are a great source of food for finches and the like in the winter so I have a tendency to leave some of them.


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RE: Echinacea- cut back in fall or leave till spring?

Depends on whether you want a million seedlings next year.


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RE: Echinacea- cut back in fall or leave till spring?

It probably doesn't matter much one way or the other with Echinacea purpurea. For E. paradoxa, E. pallida, or one of the new hybrids, it might help to leave the stalks if you don't have good drainage, because I've read these do not like wet feet.

Million seedlings is right - my patches have gotten so thick and reseeded so much - I am weeding them out! So now I cut back most of the seedheads, leaving a few for the Goldfinches. But I also collect some and put them in a brown paper bag in the garage. Periodically through the winter, I grab a bunch and tape it to the bird feeders. The Goldfinches and Pine Siskins love them! (Then, I get seedlings sprouting under the bird feeders.)


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RE: Echinacea- cut back in fall or leave till spring?

Well, I guess I should say, I have a Tiki Torch, After Midnight, Mac and Cheese, and Tomato Soup. All are first year plants. So, I haven't kept the flower buds on this year, because I wanted the plants to concentrate on growing roots. So, I'm not worried about seeding. In fact Mac and Cheese, and Tiki Torch haven't even bloomed for me this year!
I have them in a raised bed, about a foot off the ground, so drainage isn't a problem. After Midnight is looking very black for the most part, except a little still green at the very base.


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RE: Echinacea- cut back in fall or leave till spring?

Hi kentstar. I received a 'Hot Papaya' through mail order, over a month ago & potted it up (4"), upon arrival.
I don't know about your specific cultivars, but I have an idea the one I bought was from tissue culture. Not only that, but I'm also fairly certain, a hybrid.
Since it is a hybrid,(& possibly some of yours are too) producing any viable seeds, may actually be more of a problem, in particular if you wanted to sow some seed.

I'm not cutting off the leaves on mine, since they are still green & not only that, but I doubt this offers any real 'protection' from winter, anyway.

Actually, come to think of it, I might recall from this past spring, quite a few posts from people complaining about a terrible lack of hardiness, on some of the newer Echinacea cultivars. Some of of the very same ones, which you happen to name.
I would imagine they used mulch, probably being in a slightly colder zone than I, expecting protection, but to no avail. I have my doubts, that it was loss due to 'inexperience' with gardening, but rather the cultivars being not so hardy.

Now that I think about it... I'd sure hate to find out mine isn't very winter hardy either & would regret having to get a replacement (another small one at that & starting all over again) in a matter of only just a few months. So I may just end up putting it in the garage in a larger pot for some period of time, during the winter. Especially if it there is a sudden cold spell predicted.
I'm not going to trust its survival (were it planted in the ground & mulched, or not) to a sudden severe cold snap, even if a catalog does state most Echinacea are winter hardy to zone five temperatures.

Not after what I've read here this past spring, with people wondering when their new Echinacea cultivars were ever going to appear again...


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RE: Echinacea- cut back in fall or leave till spring?

Well, I'm going to mulch well tomorrow with shredded leaves and pine needles. If it is hardy enough to survive great, if not, then I guess it wasn't meant to be. I guess I'll just have another excuse to buy some other plant lol!


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