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Above ground, ground level, or hybrid?

Posted by newgen 9 California (My Page) on
Mon, Jan 11, 10 at 19:19

I've been wanting to put a small pond in my front yeard, dimensions maybe around 4' x 4', depth is at least 2', shape is circular, oval, or free form. The pond is mainly for lilies, and to help complement my plants (plumerias, bananas, Ti, Japanese maples). I'm not sure if the pond should be above ground, ground level, or half & half. My concerns are as follows, please chime in with any info, thanks!

Ground level: more labor to excavate, grass will fly into the water when mowing, "nicer" in my opnion than an above ground pond.

Above ground: you can sit on the borders, no digging, basically buy a "tub" and fill with water, with some reinforcement of the periphery of course.

Hybrid: half in ground half above. I was told to consider this option, but I don't think I want it. Unless some of you have done it and really like it, please add your opinions.

Thank you!


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RE: Above ground, ground level, or hybrid?

newgen
All three of your choices i have built for people over the years. Its basically what your preferance is. For me since it would be in the front yard my choice would be in the ground just for the fact of curb appeal. Its a little unsitly seeing a above ground pool in your front yard.

Also with it being in the ground the pond is more insulted for your plants and fish than above or even hybrid styles.

greg


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RE: Above ground, ground level, or hybrid?

  • Posted by newgen 9 California (My Page) on
    Tue, Jan 12, 10 at 10:29

Greg,

My front yard is not visible from the street, it has a 6' wall in front of it. I should've referred to it as a courtyard. Do you have any photos of the pools you've built?

Thanks!


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RE: Above ground, ground level, or hybrid?

For an actual front yard, like I want to do, I think in ground is key... I might hybrid a few inches to control leaves and dirt, but half-and-half would look awkward.

OTOH, in a Court Yard, I LOVE above ground... two feet might be a bit much. I would do 1' above ground with a bench/lip around it, then go as deep as you want...

Then an OVER THE TOP water feature in the middle to circulate...

Go big or go home! :)

Regarding the details, Greg is awesome, I just hav ea vision.


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RE: Above ground, ground level, or hybrid?

  • Posted by newgen 9 California (My Page) on
    Fri, Jan 15, 10 at 18:09

OK, so I've decided on the pond being ground level, oval shaped, 7' x 14', 1' shelf all around with a width of 18". The rest of the pond will be 3' deep. I'm paying $350 to have it dug out, and a drain pipe relocated. I'd like to find out from you guys whether I need a pump. I will only put plants in it, and maybe some small fish. I was told that a pump for my purpose is not required.

Thanks,


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RE: Above ground, ground level, or hybrid?

Just my 2 cents, but if you don't circulate the water some way (via pump), you will have a stagnant pool of water. Plants and fish in particular need circulating water.

Your size is good for maybe 12 goldfish or comets, no koi. Remember - they WILL reproduce like rabbits. In a year you will have 30 or 40 - think ahead about were the offspring will go :)

And rethink the plant shelf if you may have any predator problems - shelves are easy spots for cats, racoons and herons to hunt from - you might consider straight sides - 3' depth - and use other means (dark 'milk crates', pots, etc) to put plants where you desire.

One other consideration - a 'hybid' or anything above ground would be safer if in your front yard where any unattended toddler could fall in.... :(


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RE: Above ground, ground level, or hybrid?

  • Posted by newgen 9 California (My Page) on
    Sat, Jan 16, 10 at 1:52

sheepco: Thanks for your info. The pond is in an enclosed courtyard, gated in the front entrance. I will put some small fish (probably not goldfish) to eat up the mosquito larvae. I don't have that much mosquitoes in the summer so initially I may go without any fish at all. There are no cats or raccoons around here, only ground squirrels, LOTS of 'em.


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