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| We have had a pond since 1997, and Cliff only discovered this trick about 3 years ago -- by accident.
We have a bottom drain with a 90 degree angle and a two 45 degree angle's. The bottom drain gets clogged several times during the season with leaves, rocks, and pebbles (especially pebbles from the koi foraging in the lily pots) Cliff would put two hoses together on the shop vac and force it down past the two 45 degree angle's and the 90 degree angle..(not an easy task, to push, turn, and twist a hose past these angles.) Then he would both vacuum and blow out the line. One day he forced in the wrong end of the hose down the line by mistake. Once the house got
Well, we were in big trouble, with a stuck hose that wouldn't budge... After several house of trying to get the house out, a light bulb went on in his head. He tied a rag (boy scout knot) in the center of a very long strong nylon line. He dropped the line down from inside the first filter tub
The nylon line in now part of his regular maintenance...It is now so easy to keep
The long nylon line (with the rag in the center) is now permanently attached in our pond --- the nylon line is attached on one end to the dock and on the other
BTW...he initially used a snake to get the line all the way through the drain line... Here's a drawing of the pond set up.
The nylon cord is attached to the dock cleat.
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| Oh, I like that idea. Except for the part about the string going through the water and up to the dock. Knowing my fish, one of them would swim into it and knock off a scale, ending a show career. I think I'd rather tie the end of the string to something that can sit in the bottom of the pond next to the drain cover. Like a piece of PCV pipe or a large stainless steel nut. Anything that won't slip under the bottom drain dome. A large nut might be ideal, because I could hook it with something and pull the string up without even getting in the pond. I had to go swimming yesterday to unclog drains. I knew they were starting to run slow and needed cleaning, but of course while I was away for the weekend my poor DH had to try to keep the filters going with the suddenly even more reduced flow. I wish I had thought to run a string through the actual drain lines and clean them while I was already wet. I am sure the drain lines have a lot of icky stuff on the walls after 5 years in service. |
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- Posted by nancym1956 6b (My Page) on Tue, May 25, 10 at 9:29
| Excellent idea. This is why newbies turn to the more experienced for advice. I installed a retro BD this spring on my existing pond, through the side, but if I ever do another rebuild I will be installing a through-the-bottom BD, so I'll be tucking this away for future reference. |
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- Posted by cliff_and_joann z7 L.I.,NY (My Page) on Tue, May 25, 10 at 10:11
| ccombes, I can't see that the nylon cord would hurt the fish? You show your fish? My fish get some bumps and bruses from the rocks on the edge, and you can see from my videos, they shimmer up the rocks on the edges scurrying for food :) One more thing, Cliff took the dome off the BD and just has a black milk crate over the BD. This way he can tug on his nylon cords frequently without having to uncover the BD. It's all about -- making the maintenance easier. Check out these stones surrounding the BD (under the milk crate) Where do they come from? (This is suppose to be a bare bottom pond) I swear these koi pick up rocks in their mouths, roll them around and spit them out around the BD to clog it up!
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- Posted by pondbucket (My Page) on Tue, May 25, 10 at 10:11
| Yeah, it's the one thing that I could have easily done (add a bottom drain) and didn't really think about it because I didn't know any better. (Amazing really given all the softcover books I read on the subject beforehand). That's a great trick. |
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| Yep...I do show them. Obstructions in the pond are a big no-no for me. I have rocks around the top that I am planning on removing this winter and I'll have flat stones that overhang the pond instead. A couple inches of liner will show, but it's worth it to me. I can't have them getting bumped or bruised up because it will damage them for show. I also keep males in a different pond so there is no spawning activity to hurt them. I had a fake alligator once that I kept in place with a nylon string and dang it if one of the koi didn't tear off a couple scales on that string. |
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| Great tip, Joann. Thanks!!! We deal with this several times a year and have been using a snake.... what a hassle! I also like the crate idea for a BD covering instead of the dome. >>>Check out these stones surrounding the BD (under the milk crate) Where do they come from? (This is suppose to be a bare bottom pond)<<< Yeah,LOL .... I haven't figured that one out either! |
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- Posted by cliff_and_joann z7 L.I.,NY (My Page) on Wed, May 26, 10 at 9:49
| ronnie, One thing we have figured out is -- That koi are very clever, charming, friendly, and hungry all the time, and when they want to get to a nice yummy lily root, their like a dog on a bone...woof woof! Hey, Ma's not looking, lets start digging the rocks |
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- Posted by goodkarma_ 5b (My Page) on Thu, May 27, 10 at 0:47
| Hi Joan, The water and Koi look lovely as always. Just a pleasure to see your pics. |
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