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New 50g pond in SE FL...fish & plant suggestions?

Posted by sumognat SE FL (My Page) on
Wed, Jun 16, 10 at 13:24

Hi,

My SO just installed a new in-ground pond in our SE FL backyard and we are hoping someone can help point us in the right direction with choosing plants and fish.

Pond Info:
The pond is 50 gallons and one of those pre-formed pond liners that can be found at the big box stores. It is already in the ground and we are in the process of installing the pond edging. My SO wants to build his own filter for the pond, so he is still brainstorming the easiest way to construct it. He plans to add a waterfall and a submersible pump will be added.

The pond will not receive sun until the mid-afternoon and probably another 4-5 hours afterwards in the summer. For the most part, the pond will receive a good deal of shade. There are no trees around it, save for a clump of areca palms about 6-8 feet away.

Fish Dilemma:
I am not crazy about the idea of having fish, if it involves a lot of work (we already have enough animals to take care of :)). SO would like some goldfish, but we are in disagreement as to whether our pond is big enough for 1-2 sarasa/comet gold fish. I don't want to re-home or euthanize fish that grow to be too big for the pond. Small mosquito fish are a possibility, but I am worried about 2 fish turning into a population of 200. I am thinking that 1 betta fish might not be a bad idea and easy to maintain. Also, since the pond is not so deep, I am thinking it might be difficult to have goldfish in our weather, since I can see the water temperature rising into the mid-80s mid-day; conversely it may get too cold for tropicals in the winter (like bettas). As you can see, I think we would really benefit from the advice of more experienced pond keepers. :)

Also, can anyone suggest pond plants suitable to a 50g pond?

Thanks in advance! :)


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RE: New 50g pond in SE FL...fish & plant suggestions?

since your pond is so small and is located in Southern Florida, I would really not put fish in there. Goldfish need 50 gallons each so right away, you should rule out golfish. A betta might work, but your pond temperature will probably get too warm for them to be comfortable. I thik I'd probably just put some mosquito dunks in it to keep the bugs under control and stick with plants only.


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RE: New 50g pond in SE FL...fish & plant suggestions?

I could either go with a pair of mosquito fish (you have a 50/50 chance of getting the same sex), or a betta, or perhaps even a pair of platies or swords. The platies and swords will eat their young, so you should not see any increase in population.

With some shade, perhaps helped by a taro or umbrella plant, I think the betta or any tropical fish would be okay in the summer, but you might have to bring them indoors during the winter if the water temps fall below 70. Considering how short your winters are there, it would not be for a very long time. If your winters are not severe, you could also try putting in a submersible aquarium heater, as long as you have a GFCI.

A betta will definitely clean up the mosquito larvae for you, since they absolutely LOVE live food. Whatever fish you choose, you will probably need to supliment their diet, though, because there will not always be larvae available in the water.

I've kept a betta in my patio lily pots, moving him from one pot to the next, and he did an excellent job of cleaning up the mosquito larvae, and seemed quite content. But when I brought him inside for the winter, he refused to eat the betta bites, and I had to get frozen brine shrimp for him.


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Fish

Oops, I just saw the part of your message where you mention a waterfall and filter. Bettas do not like moving water; they prefer still pools.

With a pond the size of yours and with a filter and waterfall, I don't think you will have a mosquito problem at all, so I'm going to agree wtih ccoombs1 and suggest just a pond with plants. There are all kinds of plants you can put in a pond like that, including taro, umbrella palms, aquatic iris, arrowhead, arum, pickerel, etc.


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RE: New 50g pond in SE FL...fish & plant suggestions?

Thanks for the feedback - I'm the SO. At any rate, I've been doing research on how to stock this relatively small pond. In my research, I've come across various "guidance", from one inch of fish per sq ft of pond surface, to one inch of fish per 3gal of water. Obviously, shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet and maintaining fish/pond is more art than science.

ccoombs - would you elaborate the rationale for one fish per 50gal of water. I assume (rightly or not) size of the fish (room to swim around) and among of waste (bigger fish naturally puts more garbage) would dictate how many fish one could stock in a pond of given size. Sorry if I'm asking dumb question... just trying to learn along the way. And why wouldn't I want to keep fish in this particular pond if I'm located in S. FL?

Thanks!


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RE: New 50g pond in SE FL...fish & plant suggestions?

Hi
I'm rather stumped on what to recommend due to the size of the pond.lol All the plants mentioned would outgrow it in a single season . Maybe some "aquarium" type plants ?? Another aspect to consider is that fish in such a small area will be manna from heaven for herons and egrets. Due to the summer heat and size considerations some guppies would be about the only choice. Now if the pool is on a screened lanai ??
A Betta would be a very poor choice even if you only considered winter. They can't tolerate temps below 65
Gold fish get far too big very quickly not to mention they'll get lost in the plants lol
That size would make an excellant "marsh" garden for aquatic taro, or many types of tropical plants. particularly located in the shade. But even the small ones would quickly over run the surface . Won't be much room left for fish . BTW Plants are a hundred times more maintenence than the fish most due to growth rates lol
I certainly wouldn't think of "usual" water plants for such a small area. good luck with whatever you decide!!!
gary


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RE: New 50g pond in SE FL...fish & plant suggestions?

There are miniature versions of some plants for example:

Water lilies, snowflake, and floating hearts. These all bloom.

I googled and found this article. Maybe it will be helpful.

http://encyclopediaofwaterplants.com/index_files/Water_Plants_For_Tub_ Whiskey_Barrel.htm


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