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Confused about Filters

Posted by longlocks z6 PA (My Page) on
Wed, Jul 23, 08 at 16:37

Upflow or Downflow, isn't the basic principal the same?

I'm so confused because I just visited a local pond place where the guru in charge told me that my home built "skippy" filter (rubbermaid stock tank upflow type) was an "anaerobic" system but that his filters (downflow type same as mine only in reverse order but without a settling chamber) was the "only" way to go.

So basically you have a big plastic box and water from the pond goes into this box either at the bottom and comes out the top or in the top and comes out at the bottom (and the box usually has at least two layers but often three (settling chamber, bio material layer and filter layer).

So what's the diff whether your water flows UP or DOWN?
Why did he describe my skippy upflow filter as "anaerobic"? I am having muddy water clouding problems and consequently cleaned out my settling chamber (where I found some sludge (but not a lot of it) and it was (of course very STINKY) and I cleaned my filter material etc. This fella said the stuff in the filter should never smell bad...so is he assuming that because I had stinky sludge that my system was anaerobic?

Can somebody please explain in simple terms what this guy might have meant? and if there is a difference between upflow and downflow filters, explain WHAT the diff is?

Thanks for help!
Kathy


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RE: Confused about Filters

anaerobic generally means "without air".

If your sludge/filter media is stinky, chances are they are (the bacteria) is operating without O2.

I've not built my own filter, and just own a pressurized UV filter.

Good luck.


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RE: Confused about Filters

Up flow or down flow, unless the filter is aerated, it is anaerobic. So his filters are anaerobic also. However, he is right....filters should be cleaned often enough that they do not stink. that's the biggest problem with a skippy. Skippy filters are often cleaned only once a year, and sometimes never. The sludge that is sitting in there rots, creating the stink you smelled. That sludge harbors harmful bacteria and parasites. Skippy filters can work wonderfully well on smaller ponds, but they do need to be cleaned out at least once a month. I actually have a 100 gallon skippy on one of my 300 gallon quarantine tanks. I installed a shower drain in the bottom for easier cleaning. To clean it, I shut off the pump and slosh the filter media around in the water good to loosen any sludge that is trapped in it (but not so hard the the beneficial bacteria is removed. then I drain it and flush the bottom good. that water is full of nutriants for your garden too! A better filtration system separates the solids and waste before it goes into the skippy. The bio-bacteria in the skippy work better if the environment is clean. Some sort of settling tank or filter box full of filter brushes is very beneficial. If you have that in place before your skippy, flush that prefilter often and don't worry about the skippy nearly as much.


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RE: Confused about Filters

  • Posted by horton 6 b Ontario. (My Page) on
    Thu, Jul 24, 08 at 7:51

Below is a link to an article about filter types and how they work.
As previously stated pond filters should be cleaned out every so often to keep them healthy.
How often?
That depends the size of the filter to pond ratio, and on the amount of work it is doing.
Consideration should be given to the fish load, plant life cycle, etc, in the pond.

Never clean off all of the filter material at one time.
Always leave some of the filter material "dirty".
This will re inoculate/re-seed the rest of the cleaned material, with the "good bacteria" which is required, to keep the pond water healthy.
"Horton".

Here is a link that might be useful: Pond Filters,


 
 

 

 


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