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Wed, Jul 21, 10 at 22:50
| Hi guys,
I am completely infatuated with the Victoria Lilly that has pads up to 3 feet in diameter. The problem is that they are insanely expensive and are tropical. I was wondering if anyone had seeds they could possibly share with me and if its possibly to winter these over without keeping the water temperature at 80 degrees. thanks |
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| Hi There are several websites dedicated to Vics. "Victoria adventure" will tell you everything you'd need to know as well as a source for seeds. 3 feet?? try over six for a semi happy plant lol. Obviously you need a large pond . They are an annual plant therefore must be started from seed though a plant can last for 18 months . So overwintering is irrelevant. but they need at least 10 months to mature . Check out the site and decide if you want to work that hard lol.??? gary |
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- Posted by sandy0225 z5 Indiana (northerntropics@sbcglobal.net) on Thu, Jul 22, 10 at 7:26
| We did winter one or two over at Garfield park conservatory with water temps of 70 degrees. But they will get large unless you keep them dwarfed by withholding fertilizer. But it's not quite as fun having a dwarf giant plant you know. Mine currently has the largest pad just a touch under four feet, it's just a baby. My best size so far has been just a little over 6 feet. Sincerely, Sandy @ Northern Tropics Greenhouse |
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- Posted by duddlydoright (My Page) on Thu, Jul 22, 10 at 10:52
| @gary, I wasnt able to find the site you mentioned. As for the effort, I dunno, I like the plant so much I would be willing to give it a shot. I just need to find the seeds at a reasonable price. @Sandy, how many seeds does 1 adult plant produce? would you be able to help me out with some perhaps? |
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- Posted by pondmaninal 7b (My Page) on Thu, Jul 22, 10 at 20:53
| Okay, so you want to grow a Vic? I have first hand knowledge. I grew a Victoria cruziana last year in zone 9a in central Florida. I grew it in a 5-gallon pot, fertilized it once a week with Jobe's Organic Plant Spikes, and it's biggest pad was 28" in diameter. I grew it in a 5'x5' hot tub shell and had three beautiful blooms. The first night that the bloom opens, there is a strong sweet pineapple smell around the yard, you can't miss it. It is to late to try to start seed now but unless you live in south Florida, you will want to grow either V. cruziana or V. "Longwood". They are the more cooler tolerant of the Vics. Longwood is a hybrid cross of V. cruziana and V. amazonica. You will want to get your seeds as close to Spring as possible. You will also want to start them in an heated aquarium at 80°F. If you move it much, get some thick leather gloves so you won't get stuck to bad with the thorns. All the info you need is in the following link. You can also get seed there in November, when they are ready. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Victorias
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- Posted by duddlydoright (My Page) on Thu, Jul 22, 10 at 21:37
| thanks for the info pondmaninal, any ideas where i can get those seeds? |
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| Hi Just googled "Victoria adventure". Entire site seems to be still there . Incredible amount of info on all things aquatic . gary |
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- Posted by duddlydoright (My Page) on Fri, Jul 23, 10 at 13:12
| ironically my name is gary as well lol, thanks |
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- Posted by pondmaninal 7b (My Page) on Fri, Jul 23, 10 at 20:44
| Follow the link and you will see a link to a seed order page. All you pay is the postage. Until then, read through the site, it's a very good Victoria site. It's the only one I trust. |
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- Posted by duddlydoright (My Page) on Sat, Jul 24, 10 at 0:20
| wow thats amazing thanks |
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- Posted by duddlydoright (My Page) on Sat, Jul 24, 10 at 9:47
| o i had another question, can fish exist in the same environment as these lillies or will they be harmed by the thorns? |
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- Posted by pondmaninal 7b (My Page) on Sat, Jul 24, 10 at 19:23
| Not sure about goldfish or koi but I do know that mosquito fish are good with them. |
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- Posted by duddlydoright (My Page) on Sat, Jul 24, 10 at 19:49
| do you have any pics of the one you raised? |
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- Posted by pondmaninal 7b (My Page) on Sun, Jul 25, 10 at 20:48
| Okay, here you go. Here's the flower.
It look rough because of Sandwichmen, the larvae of the China Marks moth.
And the plant itself.
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- Posted by duddlydoright (My Page) on Sun, Jul 25, 10 at 21:11
| thats so sweet dude, you must have been stoked. |
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- Posted by aquaterium (My Page) on Sun, Jul 25, 10 at 22:57
| We are growing our first Victoria this year here in northern NJ, and every day is an adventure since they grow so fast. We have about 25 koi and they don't bother the Vicotria at all. We are on our 5th pad and it is 30 inches, with a new pad opening up right now and another on the way. Our goal was to achieve a 36-inch pad in our 4,000 gallon pond and I think we will easily reach that goal within the next pad or two. Without a doubt the most fun plant in the pond, and everyone who sees them is absolutely amazed. We cannot overwinter, so our Victoria will always just be treated like an annual and we will re-buy every year. Absolutely worth it though. It's an "impact" plant and it simply owns the pond. We fertilize it every 2 weeks and it gets full sun. It seems to like water that is constantly near or above 80 degrees. The thorns are SHARP. You mess with a Victoria, you will lose. I got stuck by a stem the other day and it hurt like a bee sting and it wouldn't go away for almost an hour. I will now show the proper respect. No flowers yet, and I hope I get a few, but they are really not necessary to enjoy the plant. The pads are what you want this plant for and they do not disappoint if the plant is healthy. Highly recommended. |
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- Posted by duddlydoright (My Page) on Sun, Jul 25, 10 at 23:37
| do u heat your pond ? |
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- Posted by pondmaninal 7b (My Page) on Mon, Jul 26, 10 at 21:00
| Aquaterrium, which variety do you have? |
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- Posted by aquaterium (My Page) on Thu, Jul 29, 10 at 10:17
| I'm not sure, but I believe it is a victoria cruziana because the sides of the platters are green. Here is a pic: |
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- Posted by duddlydoright (My Page) on Thu, Jul 29, 10 at 13:55
| thats cool, can we get more pond pics? |
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- Posted by pondmaninal 7b (My Page) on Thu, Jul 29, 10 at 20:36
| Aquaterium, is that a bud I see in the center or another new pad? It looks good but watch out for pests munching on the pads. All you can do is spray them off with water because Victorias don't like stuff on their pads. Just keep this post handy for when it blooms. If it looks like my bloom, then it will be Cruziana. When it puts up a bud, watch it closely and try to go out to see it as soon as it opens. You will never forget the experience. |
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- Posted by vickie_2006 (My Page) on Sun, Aug 1, 10 at 15:55
Thanks so much. It is doing great  |
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- Posted by sara_in_philly (My Page) on Sun, Aug 1, 10 at 16:18
| This is facinating! I read through the whole victoria site. aquaterium, N Jersey is cooler than where i am (philly suburb). When do you put your victoria into the pond? Is your pond heated? |
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- Posted by duddlydoright (My Page) on Sun, Aug 1, 10 at 20:48
| that looks so cool |
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- Posted by pondmaninal 7b (My Page) on Sun, Aug 1, 10 at 21:02
| Well, heeelllllooooo, Vickie! Another experienced Victoria grower. |
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- Posted by vickie_2006 zone 6 (My Page) on Mon, Aug 2, 10 at 15:28
| Hi pondmaninal. Glad to see you here |
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