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new pond and plants winter

Posted by rexanne z5 Chicago (My Page) on
Wed, Sep 19, 07 at 19:09

ponders-
okay, new pond new (to me) plants. I want to grow the plants bare root in the pond in baskets with rocks. Should I wait to undirt them till spring?

horsetail and cardinal flower
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got some others too, iris arrowleaf and acoris (sp?)and anemopsis
RexAnne


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RE: new pond and plants winter

Why do you want to grow them bareroot ? Once they start to reproduce it will be so hard to separate the extra plants from the rocks . If they are just in dirt all you have to do is wash the roots with a hose . Once the plants start growing their roots will cover the top of the pots so the fish cant remove the dirt . Whatever you decide , do it now in the fall so you dont disturb the roots in the spring . Make sure you get larger pots . I raise pond plants so what I do is use the cheap black plastic pots you buy them in , put a layer of plastic over the holes on the bottom so the dirt doesnt come out and stick your plants in with a little fertilizer . Make sure you have some fish in that pond or you'll be loaded with Mosquitos . You might also have a problem with all those pretty rocks on the shelf . It looks nice now but a lot of dirt will get stuck around them making it hard to clean . Also as soon as your algae starts growing , they will be covered and if you have Koi , when they get big they'll knock those to the bottom. Rick


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RE: new pond and plants winter

howdy Rick,
I was thinking about growing my plants soilless, I refer you to the links below

http://www.ponddoc.com/WhatsUpDoc/Plants/Soiless.html
http://bonniesplants.com/how_to/soiless_planting.html

(Why do you want to grow them bareroot ?)
to keep dirt out of the pond and to avoid problems of soil going anarobic

(Once they start to reproduce it will be so hard to separate the extra plants from the rocks.)
Even if the rocks are big? egg size or larger?

(Once the plants start growing their roots will cover the top of the pots so the fish cant remove the dirt.)
I have dirt now in the pond because of them tipping over haven't even though about goldies removing dirt, so far they don't even seem interested.

(Whatever you decide , do it now in the fall so you dont disturb the roots in the spring.)
I don't have a lot of neutrients in the water now so I was thinking I should wait till the spring and let the plants use the soil now, undecided as to what's best.

(Make sure you get larger pots . I raise pond plants so what I do is use the cheap black plastic pots you buy them in , put a layer of plastic over the holes on the bottom so the dirt doesnt come out and stick your plants in with a little fertilizer.)
Would you not end up with anarobic soil like this?

(Make sure you have some fish in that pond or you'll be loaded with Mosquitos.)
Got some goldies in there.

(You might also have a problem with all those pretty rocks on the shelf . It looks nice now but a lot of dirt will get stuck around them making it hard to clean . Also as soon as your algae starts growing , they will be covered and if you have Koi , when they get big they'll knock those to the bottom. Rick)
No to Koi, plan on goldies and blue gills. I plan on squirting those rocks when I add water, kind of flushing them out. I plan on using most of them to anchor plants and hide pots.

I am going to do an experiment. I have 3 irises:
#1 I'll repot soilless now
#2 repot in the spring soilless and
#3 I'll leave in it's pot with soil.

we shall see how they do by summer next year.

RexAnne


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RE: new pond and plants winter

  • Posted by youreit z9b CA Sunset z8-9 (My Page) on
    Sat, Sep 22, 07 at 19:09

There's absolutely nothing wrong with going soilless, and most pond plants will appreciate it, especially since you have fish to help fertilize them. :) However, potentially invasive plants really should be contained. I was thinking mainly of the horsetail, since that's been around since Christ was a pup (as my dad would say).

All of my plants are bareroot in my pond, with only large rocks to stabilize them when they were young and had a tendency to tip. I also have a rack on which I initially put cocoa fiber (think: hanging basket material) to give the roots something to grip. Acorus is one plant I have from your list that has really thrived in this bareroot situation, although all of my plants have done equally well. :)

Brenda


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RE: new pond and plants winter

hey Brenda,
how deep of water are those bare rooted plants?

an update on those irises -
I haven't repotted this spring but they have all grown back this spring.

RexAnne


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RE: new pond and plants winter

  • Posted by youreit z9b CA Sunset z8-9 (My Page) on
    Tue, Apr 22, 08 at 9:58

They were all planted in approx. 6 inches of water, with the crowns about 1 inch below the surface.

Great news about the irises! :)

Brenda


 
 

 

 


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