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Ugh, weather...

Posted by zaphod42 SE WI 5b (My Page) on
Wed, Jan 30, 13 at 8:46

The last couple of days have been in the upper 50s and raining. I've got a mini lake threatening Henri, Charles and the Baronne. Today is back in the thirties and impending snow with 2-5" likely. Friday and Saturday is looking to be colder in 5-9 degree range. After that, we're back up into the 30s. My mantra is "One more day closer to spring! One more day closer to spring! One more day closer to spring!" Hey, maybe Friday I can go ice skating on the mini lake in the back yard. :)


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Some of the same weather here. I just hope we don't get a repeat of last year when I had April temps in March & March temps in April....a lot of plants woke up in the end of March & then got nipped with April freezes.


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  • Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
    Wed, Jan 30, 13 at 11:14

Same crappy stuff here too. Standing water all over the place and it's all going to freeze by tomorrow and Friday. We were near 60 yesterday and only 19 on Friday. No wonder I feel achy!


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How bad is this for the roses? I try not think about it too much. Each trip from garage to house I pass my SDLM and stop briefly to give her a pep talk hoping that will keep her spirits up.


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In my area not too bad yet for my roses because I still have some snow cover on them & the warm spells have been only a couple days at a time. But if I should loose my snow cover & have longer warm spells, I would have some concerns.


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Do you guys really not usually get this kind of weather? This is just the January thaw, a bit behind schedule. The only thing that's a bit different is being about 10F warmer. So instead of cycling between -10 and 40's, we are cycling between zero and 50's.

It isn't particularly bad for the roses, so long as you don't cover them. The combination of warm temperatures, wet, and something holding the wet next to the canes isn't good.


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mad_gallica - This is fairly abnormal. Last year it was strange as well, but that didn't get going until a bit later in winter. The big swings are the weirdest. Yesterday was a record high and for precipitation as well. I don't know the last time we've had a January thunderstorm and 60 degree weather. Wisconsin gets cold and snowy and generally stays cold and snowy. I'm near Lake Michigan in the Milwaukee area and am in a bit of a milder area and this is a bit atypical even for us.


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mad_gallica....I'm in west central WI, about 60 mi east of St. Paul, MN. My weather is affected primarily by what comes out of Canada & the northern Great Plains which I suspect is a drier climate than yours. Here Jan. is usually cold & the thaws come in Feb. March is warmer but usually good for 1 or 2 heavy wet snow storms. Normally I don't do any pruning or uncovering until around mid April but the last 2 years have been abnormal & it looks like this year may be also.


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Are these wild weather swings bad for roses? They'd better not be, or I'd never have any roses in my yard at all! It sounds like the yoyo weather we've usually had in Nebraska is moving further north into the upper midwest - rain then snow then ice then freeze then thaw. Like wirosarian said - we get Canada weather - Texas weather - Canada - Texas all winter.

Mad Gallica is right that these fluctuations are moving notably warmer than the normal temperature swings, but my memories of Wisconsin were of smaller ranges of temperatures and more consistent snow cover. I remember one year in Madison where it snowed in mid-October and we didn't see the grass at all till April. Here we got a much needed 6" of snow last night (yay, moisture!), and some folks were frantically cross-country skiing outside my window because it'll be useless in another day or two (40's and 50's by the weekend again).

In my experience of these yoyos, unless the cold or warm spells are both extreme and for an extended time (like 2 weeks) the roses will cope fine and won't change their state until it's closer to actual spring.

Cynthia


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We get cold air from Canada, and warm, moist air from the Atlantic Ocean. Depending on exactly where they meet, it can be very cold, very warm, and/or very wet.

IME, the damage to the roses very much conforms to the lowest low of the winter, and changes remarkably little depending on anything else. So the idea that temperature swings during the winter causes problems doesn't agree with my experience.


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