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| Hello! I'm a new member and have read through the posts. Lots of good info! I'm looking for a source in the US to buy the Tantau Piano rose plant and other variaties that they have without having to fly to Germany. I checked the Hortico and Pickering websites and they don't list them. Anyone have any info? Thanks so much! |
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| Hi Josephine and welcome! I don't know if you know about the site called Help Me Find Roses but it's a great source for the info you want and much more! I'll post a link below. I did check there for your rose Piano and I don't see anything in North America listed as a source. And importing roses from Europe is very complicated and takes years of quarantining. There is one garden in the US listed to have it. Maybe you could email them and get a cutting. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Help Me Find Roses
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| Wow! There is not just Piano, but a whole sport family. All look fabulous in the HMF pix. Judging by HMF evidence only, Christian Evers seems to me like a much more interesting breeder than Hans Jurgen, who, I gather, was mostly involved in supplying the florist trade. I understand that importing plants has become expensive and difficult. What about importing budwood? And could budwood be sent by mail after all regulations had been complied with and fees paid? Might importing budwood be something any American nurseries want to do, or would that also be prohibitively expensive. Piano has already been given a North American mass market friendly name, Hope and Glory, so we may hope that someone intends to offer it here in the near future. |
Here is a link that might be useful: The family Piano at HMF
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- Posted by kstrong 10 So Cal (kathystrong@gmail.com) on Mon, Jan 6, 14 at 16:17
| Hi there -- what is it in particular that you find enticing about this particular variety? Maybe one of us can suggest something with a similar characteristic that can be obtained stateside. There are lots of roses that look similar to the photos of Piano posted on HMF. |
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| I've mentioned in more than one thread that Tantau doesn't have an agent in North America so most of these newer roses can't be sold here. Several roses have been poached before they were patented, and have been sporadically available in Canada. I guess Ascot (Palatine) and Augusta Luise (Hortico) are still for sale. Astrid Grafin von Hardenberg can be custom grown by Angel Gardens. Diane |
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- Posted by josephine_rose none (My Page) on Wed, Jan 8, 14 at 14:58
| Thanks for all the info! seil -- Thanks for mentioning the HMF site. I'll see what I can do with that info. nastarana -- Thanks for mentioning about the budwood. Didn't know that might be an option, so will look into that. Also didn't know they'd already given it an American mass market name. kstrong -- I appreciate your suggestion of looking for something similar. My husband and I are growing cut flowers for our local market and had done some research that these roses were all the rage with the florists, so wondered if we could grow some to offer to our local market. What appeals to me about these roses is two things -- the definite cup shape and the fullness of the layers of petals. From what I read, it looks like the Tantau varieties have a 7-10 day vase life, if not longer. So if you have some suggestions of garden roses that kind of fit into those criteria, I would love to hear them :) nandoll -- Thanks for your info and suggestions. Wonder why Tantau doesn't have an agent for North America? Probably opening a can of worms with that question, but would seem to me that there would be a wonderful market here. Again, thanks all for your wealth of knowledge :) |
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| Maybe someone did try to poach, and got as far as the mass market friendly name. Eurodesert's Morongo Valley, available at Heirloom, shows similar flower shape. I don't know about vase life. I also thought the Piano family's blooms looked somewhat unique and beautiful. |
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| Looks a lot like 'Francois Rabelais'. |
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- Posted by kstrong 10 So Cal (kathystrong@gmail.com) on Thu, Jan 9, 14 at 1:19
| Yep -- I would also recommend Francois Rabelais and also Amadeus (Kordes, 2003) -- which is similar to FR, but a larger plant that blooms in bigger sprays. Both would be available in the U.S. Both of them are healthy bloom machines. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Francois Rabelais on HMF
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