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| I am starting a new bed this year and wanted to center a very vigorous, peggable rose in the center. I had thought a great deal on reine de violettes, but after reading some of the comments on this forum i am not so sure. I want a large rose as I want to peg the rose into the surrounding plants. I love the color of reine de violettes, the fragrance and the repeat blooming. Does anyone have any advice for me regarding this rose in my zone or perhaps an alternative rose.
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- Posted by Strawberryhill 5a IL (My Page) on Wed, Feb 1, 12 at 10:21
| I remember Seil's comment that Reine de Violettes is more like a once bloomer for cold zone, and flower shatters. Jim from 5a NY likes Hippolyte, a Gallica, a once-bloomer, hardy to zone 4b. I checked on Hipployte, thornless deep mauve, 4'x 8'. The flower is absolutely gorgeous with concentric swirls. The other thornless mauve once blooming is Veilchenbleu, hardy to zone 4b, 10' x 12', multiflora prefers acid soil. Burlington Roses in CA have both of them, and also other THORNLESS pegging roses such as Super Jane (6b), Zep. Drouhin (5b), Grus an Teplitz (6b), and Kathleen (hybrid musk). She has Kim Rupert's THORNLESS pegging creation, Annie Laurie McDowell. This beauty always bloom and can be used as fragrant cut flower. It's sold out since I got the last band. You can e-mail BurlingtonRoses@aol.com to request for her Excel-files that contain info. for over 380 roses sold in bands for $10.95 each. The shipping cost is really low from Burlington to my Chicagoland, it's $25 for the twelve roses I ordered. I am into mauve roses, and before I order Old Port floribunda, would like to know: does Old Port make a good cut flower, and how's the fragrance? I have William Shakespeare 2000 and his fragrance is unstable - I'm OK with that. The other mauve roses gave reports of shattering too quick for vase, such as Ebb Tide, Wild Blue Yonder, and nearly thornless Outta the Blue. I have a hard time finding a good mauve flower besides W.S.2000 for the vase. I appreciate any info. on mauve roses - many thanks.
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| REINE DE VIOLETTES is a once bloomer for me here in my warm zone. In fact it's an "almost doesn't bloom!" Not a very good rose as far as I'm concerned. I would also suggest VEILCHENBLEU. It is a once bloomer, but I imagine it would peg well. Mine is in a huge ceramic pot in the middle of one of my back beds, sitting atop an old ceramic sink that's turned up-side-down, putting it about 4ft off the ground. It grows out like a big fountain, with octopus arms cascading all over, and the cute little purple blooms are so pretty in the spring. |
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| In my garden setting, Reine des Violettes repeats, but not heavily. It's very cold hardy, and easy to grow. (I've heard that it does not like alkaline soil...) I don't know if the canes grow long enough to peg, in a cold zone. It has a sprawling growth habit, and if companion flowers are tall enough then the blooms will mingle without pegging. Louise Odier and Mme Isaac Pereire are wonderful Bourbons that also have a sprawling habit, and would look lovely with companion plants. |
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| Thank you Strawberryhill. I'm eager to read how ALmD does for you. Super Jane is Annie Laurie's "sister", named for jimofshermanoaks' delightful wife, Jane. Kim |
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| It's true RdV does not repeat well for me. I get a nice flush in the spring but after that I only get one or two blooms on it the rest of the season. But it's also not in all day sun either. It only gets sun in the afternoon where it's at. If it got more sun I think it would bloom better. It is very tall and flexible and lends it's self easily to pegging. Plus the fact that it's thormless and easy to work with which is good for a pegging rose because you don't get stabbed while your working on it. It's wonderfully hardy and green to the tips every spring. The blooms are a gorgeous color and smell heavenly! You can smell it from many feet away when it's in full bloom. As far as staying power they last a couple of days on the bush but you can't cut them to bring in because they'll drop their petals in a couple of hours. I also had ALmD and it's a beautiful rose, delicate pink and white, and did bloom more often than RdV. But mine was a tiny band that didn't make it through winter so I can't say anything about it's growth habits. I'm replacing it because I really did like it. |
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