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Need no-spray replacements for 3 roses

Posted by irish_rose_grower z7 LI NY (My Page) on
Mon, Jan 9, 12 at 21:53

I have:

Abe Darby
Pat Austin
Tamora

I no longer spray for BS and these are just going downhill terribly. Can you recommend no-spray roses (other than knockout types) that i can replace these with?
thanks


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RE: Need no-spray replacements for 3 roses

Cottage Rose is the only Austin I have had that does not get black spot.

I just listed my favorites in the thread near this one, but I am not sure about how they will do in your zone.

Sammy


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RE: Need no-spray replacements for 3 roses

I like these:
Home Run-no scent, small plant, red, single, very disease free so far
Lyda Rose - fragrant, white, single, some bs
Bella Donna - OGR, fragrant, loaded with small pink button eye blooms, once blooming
If you can tolerate roses whose leaves fall off but continue to live many years consider Sunsprite and Rose de Rescht.
Rugosas are loveley, fragrant, disease free and the best darn Japanese beetle attractants in Virginia.


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RE: Need no-spray replacements for 3 roses

  • Posted by seil z6 MI (My Page) on
    Tue, Jan 10, 12 at 22:01

Home Run has been very healthy for me. Rose de Rescht does drop all of it's leaves for me too. I gave away Sunsprite because if you blinked the blooms were blown and looked like used tissue. Julia Child is fairly healthy and blooms a lot.


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RE: Need no-spray replacements for 3 roses

Remember Me. Beautiful easy orange blend that stays perfect clean all summer. Bred in N. Scotland for their harsh conditions. Rugosa's should do well in your area. If they draw J. beatles, those pest's are only around for a few weeks. Just make sure you get good repeat bloomers.


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1) Buck roses such as Earthsong and Quietness.
2) Kordes Fairy Tale roses
3) Easy Elegance roses.
4) Austin claims that The Mayflower is disease resistant.


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RE: Need no-spray replacements for 3 roses

I grow a number of Austins in my no-spray garden.

They get blackspot, but grow and bloom well.

The Shepherdess is vigorous and beautiful, very good repeat bloom on a lovely shrub.

Evelyn repeats very well.

Sweet Juliet is similar to Evelyn, also a lovely rose.

Bishop's Castle holds onto its leaves better than some of the others.


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Rugosa Magnifica
Belle Poitvine
John Davis


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RE: Need no-spray replacements for 3 roses

Sammy - thank you for suggesting Cottage Rose. I will be sure to look that one up.

Grandmothers_rose - thank you also for these suggestions. I will add these to the list i will be looking up later tonight.

Seil - thank you for your comments. I've never seen Julia Child rose - i will take a look at that one.


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ken-n.ga.mts's - Thank you for suggesting Remember me. I will take a look at this one. I'm not familiar with this rose.

Predfern - I love the Buck I have, Prairie Harvest. And i've seen pics of Quietnesi s and it is beautiful. I may have to get that one. I'm not familiar with Earthsong but will take a look for that one too.

HI Krista - thank you for this listing. I LOVE Austins, but I've grown so many of them (Evelyn included) and they all get blackspot so badly in my climate. I get a gorgeous spring flush and then it starts the decline... By the time i should have a fall flush they had lost at least 1/2 leaves and the rest were covered in black spots.

Trospero - off to look up the 3 you listed. Thank you so much.

You guys/gals on this rose forum are always so helpful.

I'll let you all know which ones I like.


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I grow a grandiflora called Mother Of Pearl. It stays clean all year.


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Julia Child, Quietness, Earthsong, and Prairie harvest are good for me. Prairie Breeze is good as well as Square Dancer, Simon Estes, and Country Dancer. Everyone loves Carefree Beauty, but for me the form seems rather loose and floppy. Perhaps I have them in the wrong location.

Sammy


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I agree with the "Fairy Tale" series from Kordes (order from Palatine). The two that I have had almost no blackspot last year, but did not defoliate. I have Caramel Fairy Tale and Floral Fairy Tale. Pat Shanley showed a lovely photo of her Lion's Fairy Tale at a talk to our rose society last year, I think she lives on Long Island (or close), she said it was disease free.


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If you are looking for Austins, I don't spray Mayflower or Queen of Sweden. The first couple years of Jubilee Celebration, it was a wimpy plant and had some BS issues, but now in its 4th years, it has really shaped up and never had more than an occasional and very minor bout of BS--mostly disease-free. Gorgeous coloring. I've also order Lady of Shalott for this coming spring--it is supposed to be just about impervious to BS, and its colors pick up some of the yellow-golden-orangy shades that Tamora and Pat Austin feature. I'm really looking forward to the Lady of Shalott.

If you want a rugosa that doesn't get too big, try Fru Dagmar Hastrup. Mine is still small but had the most charming single pink flowers and no disease problems at all.

Lately I've been recommending Our Lady of Guadalupe also--light pink/darker pink reverses floribunda--abundant bloomer and just minor bouts of BS occasionally. Geez, that plant sure does bloom and bloom and bloom!

Oh, how could I forget my favorite new plant--Mystic Beauty (from Roses Unlimited). Exquisitely beautiful and so far no disease issues at all. It is a Bourbon.

Have fun picking the best roses.

Kate


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Would love to know which roses you chose and your first impressions of them.


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