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| I am looking into getting a climbing rose for an arbor, for over the garden gate. I live in Central PA, zone 6. I have been thinking of getting 'William Baffin', has any tried? What are your favorite climbing roses (please post pictures). Thanks. Susan |
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| Do you frequent the HMF site? Wm. Baffin is a one time bloomer? Why not go for something with several flushes? |
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- Posted by SusanBachman none (My Page) on Fri, Jan 25, 13 at 3:16
| I have not thought about that. I was thinking that WB was hardy and disease resistant. Do you have any suggestions for rebloomers? |
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- Posted by ratdogheads 5b (My Page) on Fri, Jan 25, 13 at 5:45
| A couple that I have grown in New Hampshire, Purple Splash & Climbing Iceberg. Actually they'd look nice together on either side of an arbor if you like contrast. Iceberg isn't very thorny, a nice feature if your garden gate gets much traffic. I put a link below to another conversation about climbers, there's a photo of my purple splash in that thread. Di |
Here is a link that might be useful: Climbing rose suggestions
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- Posted by farmerduck NJ (My Page) on Fri, Jan 25, 13 at 14:16
| Our climates might be similar. The climbers that have done really well in my garden are New Dawn and Awakening. Both are only two years old, but each is well on its way to become monsters in terms of size. Both are extremely thorny, though. Out of our a dozen or so 2-year old climbers, these two are the most disease resistant and vigorous. They both repeat well enough for me. But the thorns!! :) |
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| Parade does well for me here in Chester County, PA.
That's Parade in the foreground, with pale pink Awakening and red Dublin Bay behind her. Sarah Van Fleet is next to the window. |
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| Westerland grows well here (near Allentown) as a climber. It reblooms throughout the season and even includes a decent fragrance. Blooms open orange but fade to a yellow/coral blend. Winters here (low around 0) don't cause much dieback. Canes have reached 12'. I spray a Bayer fungicide about once per month which keeps Westerland clean.
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| Also, consider Quadra and Viking Queen. |
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- Posted by vampygirl13 6b (My Page) on Wed, Jan 30, 13 at 13:12
| Hi there- I'm in Western PA and my Joseph's Coat is doing very well even with a bit of shade. My Eden ended getting RRD (I think) but was growing nicely. I ordered an Abraham Darby to replace it. Some links: http://www.heirloomroses.com/roses/climbing-roses/handel.html http://www.heirloomroses.com/roses/climbing-roses/josephs-coat.html http://www.heirloomroses.com/roses/climbing-roses/kiss-of-desire.html
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- Posted by mantis__oh z6 OH (My Page) on Fri, Feb 8, 13 at 21:49
| William Baffin can get to be overbearing in my experience. You will need lots of room and support. I got rid of it because it was taking too much space, and I wanted a more refined plant and blossom and less neon color. |
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| This is wonderful pictures. |
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| William Baffin got enormous for me and outgrew its allotted space. It is also a one time bloomer in the Spring only. Its extreme winter hardiness is unnecessary in your climate, IMHO. Plus, it is not fragrant. The climbers I am now growing are Westerland and Lady Ashe...too young to evaluate just yet, but more favorable than unfavorable recommendations came out as I researched for a good climber(s)...as you are... which led me to choose them. Repeat flowering, fragrance, and no spray are very important to me. Most New Dawns I have seen are magnificent in bloom, but very often outgrow the space provided by the gardener. Then there ensues either a yearly battle at keeping it in bounds or the regrettable decision to replace it with a less aggressive/smaller climber is made. New Dawn has no fragrance to speak of and does not repeat enough to mention. Its small foliage would lead one to think it is a smaller climber, don't be fooled! Generally, most climbers are tougher than almost any other class of rose, so black spot may present fewer problems, but beware that some climbers I have encountered are black spot magnets, such as: Joseph's Coat, Red Fountain and Climbing Don Juan. I once grew the hybrid rugosa Roseraie de L' Hay a climber, one of the best growers and bloomers in this class. It routinely sent up 8-9 ft. canes and grown on a 4' high fence, covering an 8' section of it. Excellent repeat bloom, rich deep mauve color, strong clove sent, pretty much disease and insect free....cast iron, so to say, and the heavy petaled flowers depart from the stingy, blousy petals many hybrid rugosas, regrettable have. You could also consider Cape Diamond, a new rose to me, which I am growing as a cascading rose. It has long arching canes and is considered suitable as a small climber. Excellent repeat of a light pink flower with disease free attributes are its selling points, along with fragrance. For me it is still too young to evaluate but looks very promising with a strong reblooming habit exhibited so far. It looks like it has rugosa genes, the foliage being light green but not grained, and the flowers are produced in small clusters with very short necks much like rugosas. Hope this helps. Thorntorn |
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- Posted by vampygirl13 6b (My Page) on Tue, May 28, 13 at 11:18
| Just wanted to update you on my climbers this year: * My Joseph's Coat is on year 2 and really growing. I expect several blooms to open soon. I haven't seen a lot of blackspot but I have sprayed once already this year. * I just planted a small Abraham Darby and it already is growing like a weed and has a teeny bloom! * Got larger established New Dawn and Fourth of July for new installed arbors. Too early to tell but I have heard New Dawn is disease-resistant. |
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| Ramblin' Red is a beautiful red climber. Great repeat bloom and very hardy. Another favorite is John Davis, a pink Explorer rose. I have 2 of these. Very hardy and good repeat bloom in my garden. |
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| I have an arbor & a pergola (both high traffic , so have to be nearly thornless) that need a disease resistant climber for zone 6. I have been looking at Eden, Jasmina, Nahema, Renae, Zephrine Drouhin, Heritage, Excellenz von Schubert & Laguna. I was thinking Zephrine & Laguna would be too vigorous. I am looking for a rose to grow over the arbor, not eat it. I am leaning towards Eden for the pergola & either Jasmina, Nahema or Renae for the arbor. Any experience with these roses or suggestions? I am feeling a bit overwhemed..lol. Ty in advance |
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| Excellenz von Schubert doesn't get large enough here for a pergola or arbor, and Heritage probably won't either. Heritage needs treatment for blackspot here. |
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| Ok. I'm crossing them off my list. Thank you |
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| Dani, I have Laguna and it's a beautiful rose, very healthy, no blackspot, with fragrant flowers. Only problem - it's not a repeat bloomer for me. It does bloom over a long period of time though. Mine is maybe 3 years old and it about 8-9 feet tall. I love it though. The blooms are gorgeous! |
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| Sounds perfect, but I'd really like a repeat bloomer |
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- Posted by jazzmom516 Zone 7 LI, NY (My Page) on Mon, May 12, 14 at 15:05
| Look at 'Amadeus' and 'Golden Gate' and 'Jasmina' for arbors. |
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| William baffin is not a one time bloomer. it has a great first bloom and then smaller flushes. it is not a true climber but a very tall shrub. In your area there are so many you can grow i would follow any advice from above. In the picture the pink are W.B. |
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- Posted by vampygirl13 6b (My Page) on Tue, May 13, 14 at 12:12
| I'll update you on my climbers-- New Dawn grew huge and had a cane almost over the arbor until winter hit. I had to only prune back the winter kill and now it's covered in leaves and new canes. It's my best grower. The 4th of July is not doing well--as of today I see no green anywhere and I'm worried it got RRD. Our nursery guru says to wait and see but I'm about to rip it out. Joseph's coat is leafing out nicely and has new shoots. My Abraham Darby (was its own root) is really growing like a weed and I hope it just continues. |
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- Posted by meredith_e 7B Piedmont NC (My Page) on Tue, May 13, 14 at 12:55
| Dani, I grow Eden, Jasmina and Renae. They are all wonderful, but Eden is picky about conditions as far as repeat goes. Renae throws a lot of new canes, but she's easy enough to keep in bounds even here, as long as you plan on pruning. She has the best repeat for me, and she's totally thornless! I have her on a shed now, but I think she'd be great for an arbor as long as you are prepared to prune hard if necessary. She has lax canes, so you have to train her as she grows, too. Jasmina is pretty thorny! Little thorns, but thorny. Love her, though :) |
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