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Let's Pretend

Posted by rosefolly Z9/S16 NCal (My Page) on
Fri, Feb 3, 12 at 13:00

Let's just say that you had a beloved daughter who just became engaged to a man the whole family really likes a lot. And let's just say that they were planning a wedding in May/June 2013. And while we're at it, let's just say that it might be nice to have some good cutting roses with which to decorate the venue (which thankfully will not be at your own house, where there is not any level space for the all-important dance floor). Finally, let's imagine that the wedding colors were pale blues and golds.

Given all these imaginary circumstances, and with a year to get going, wouldn't you want to plant a cutting bed of highly fragrant HTs in whites, creams, and golds? Even though normally you mostly grow OGRs and reproduction roses, lovely in the garden and sometimes for cutting, but in this case all the wrong colors for the wedding.

And if you were going to do this, which ones would you choose?

Rosefolly


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RE: Let's Pretend

Well, regardless of what the wedding colors are going to be, a RED rose always has its place in a wedding. So I would try to grow at least one red rose plant. However, the only roses I've looked at lately are the ones in the current Edmunds Catalog. Based on just the catalog, one rose I would consider is "Kardinal" because it was originally planned as a cut flower (but it has no fragrance). Another red to consider is Olympiad. It can have the most beautiful red I've seen on a rose (but again, no fragrance).


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Definitely Elina--creamy white with pale yellow center. Very floriferous, big full blooms, disease-resistant.

Valencia would be good also--another one with big fat blooms, but much slower to rebloom. Wonderful fragrance. It is more a buff/gold with maybe a touch of apricot. Looks the closest to gold, in my eyes.

Both of these are lovely roses, Valencia especially.

Kate


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  • Posted by TNY78 6b-E TN (My Page) on
    Fri, Feb 3, 12 at 17:53

Rosefolly...I'm so jealous that you thought ahead! I'm getting married this April and it kills me that I have almost 300 rose bushes in my yard, but they won't be in bloom yet by April! I've ended up paying a florist 1500.00 for flowers that will be growing in my yard a month later :( Good luck to you, and congrats!!

~Tammy


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  • Posted by seil z6 MI (My Page) on
    Fri, Feb 3, 12 at 17:57

Well for fragrance you still can't go wrong with those beautiful OGRs and Austins! And many of them come in lovely shades of white, cream and yellow.

But just for pretend you could go with the likes of:

Whites:
Pope John Paul II, huge, gorgeous, pure white and smelly
Garden Party, creamy white with just a blush of pink and good fragrance

Yellows:
Julia Child, sunny yellow and nice fragrance
Peace, what can I say, a classic!

Those would be the most fragrant ones in my garden other than my two Austin's, Golden Celebration and Graham Thomas. And I still think those would be gorgeous in decorative bouquets!


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Thanks to everyone so far. My plan has evolved and I've decided to go with just white roses, and to restrict it to multiple plants of one variety. I'm concerned that if I plant different whites all just net to each other the brighter whites will make the others look off.

I'm looking at the J&P website and at Weeks. It looks as though my choices for fragrant white HTs are Pope JPII (J&P) at at Weeks, Sugar Moon, Maria Shriver, or Secret's Out. Is anyone aware of a significant superiority of any one of these over the other? There is also Tineke, which sounds like a magnificent rose, but unfortunately without the scent I would really like to have.

Rosefolly


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Crystalline is a beautiful white that smells great. It was originally a florist rose. Randy Scott is another beautiful white. Planted 8 or 10 bush's each fairly close together along with PJP11, Sugar Moon and Secret's Out. This would be a stunning display with more then enough scent to cover a huge area. Plus these are all great cutting roses. That's 50 bush's of white cutting and great garden roses. Wow!!! (just my humble opinion)


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Ken, it does sound stunning. I wish I had that much room!


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My only white in your group is PJPII. In my zone, well my garden at the very least, it normally does not pump blooms until the heat of summer.


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PeachieKean, that being the case, PJPJII might not be the best rose for this site. The wedding will be late May/early June. It could be hot, but it it is likely that the full heat of summer will not be with us yet.


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How much room ???? If you're going to go with 1 variety, I'd say Secrets Out. You can get them bare root which means roses right away. And being in the ground for a year and "NOT" pruning hard, they should put on a spring flush (2013) that would knock your socks off and fill the air with a scent to die for.


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Tammy, congratulations to you on your upcoming wedding. Just think that you will come back from your honeymoon to a garden full of blooming roses. Now that is something lovely to anticipate.


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Rosefolly,

Have you looked at French Lace?

Just a thought, if you want some variety, use different roses for different tables but keep them all the same at each table?


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Leezen4u, I grew French Lace once upon a time and to me it had little or no scent. I don't have a fabulous nose. Thank you for the suggestion, though! As it happens, my plans have evolved since I first posted my inquiry. I'm probably not going to be providing roses for the actual ceremony or reception after all, but instead, will be holding the rehearsal dinner and post-wedding breakfast at our house. For that reason I am creating a wedding garden area, all white flowers, with lots of roses. Of course I will cut a few for the tables.

I have ordered 4 PJPII, 3 White Gold, and 2 Tineke (not scented, but great for cutting), and am thinking of lining a path with several Westside Road Cream Tea. These will be planted along with Regal lilies, white delphiniums, white foxgloves, white clematis, a white lupine, and later this spring will get some white peonies. There are white calla lilies growing nearby already. To this next year I will add add white dianthus for its scent. I'm trying to find out if Angel White lilacs bloom at the right time. If they do, I'll plant as large a one as I can manage, since they take a while to start blooming. Anyway, I think my plans have jelled, though of course, there can always be last minute improvement.

Rosefolly


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