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Posted by kentstar 5b, NE Ohio (My Page) on Sat, Feb 6, 10 at 21:30
I tried posting this in the miniatures forum, but it's been so dead there that no ones answered me.
I bought Twister mini rose from Pickering that will come in early April. I'm going to pot up the rose and train on the small umbrella trellis.
Can it go right into a half barrel or would I have to work up to that size container?
It's going to be permanantly in a container. I will put the container on casters for ease of moving it into my shed in the winter.
Will it survive in an unheated shed here in NE Ohio? I don't have a problem with throwing snow over the container in the winter, or mulching with leaves etc.
Thanks
Cathy |
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RE: Twister mini rose questions
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I'd work up to the larger container. You can do that while still using the half barrel. Simply fill the half barrel with potting soil and place the potted Twister into a hole in the center. As you increase the pot size, you create a larger hole to place it in. Eventually you'll be able to plant it directly into the barrel. Meanwhile it'll look as if it's planted directly in the barrel.
Understand, the process could take a couple of seasons or you could just plant it into the half barrel and see what happens.
If you use casters, get large heavy duty hard rubber ones. That's a lot of weight for small plastic casters. Move it a little once in a while to prevent the casters from getting flat spots.
I use a two wheeled dolly to move mine.
It should do fine overwintering in an unheated shed. Don't put it inside until it's gone dormant though. |
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| Twister is not a particularly fast grower. I got mine from The Uncommon Rose as an own root baby in June 2007. It is now only about 30" tall and equally big across. By way of contrast, I got Hurdy Gurdy and Dreamcatcher (two other striped mini climbers)from the same source (albeit a year earlier, in 2006) and both of them quickly became 6 to 10 foot plants. All of them have been in pots the whole time. I would recommend Hurdy Gurdy and Dreamcatcher over Twister for the look you seem to want, but then again, my Twister plant may just have been an anomoly or "dud" plant. And further, Pickering may bud their stock on a superior rootstock (mine is own root) and that may also make a big difference. But I concur -- Twister could drown in a big old half barrel because it would probably not drain well enough and the roots of a little plant could not use the water that was in the bottom of the pot, which would cause the contents of the bottom of the pot to sour and eventually to kill the plant. So put it in a smaller pot more suited to the plant's current size someplace where the pot can drain without obstruction. Or another reasonable option if you do need to use a too-big pot is to wick the pot with cotton rope, which gives the extra water someplace to go. Good Luck
Kathy |
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| Or make sure any pot you use has good drainage. Half barrels should have many large extra holes drilled into the bottom |
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Thanks karl, that's exactly what I was thinking of doing. Potting up the rose in a smaller pot and then putting that inside the barrel. I am going to drill several larger holes in the bottom for more drainage too. It'd probably be easier that way to, to move to the shed for at least the first couple of seasons.
Pickering says it's a vigorous grower, hmm.. I wonder. I had to order 3 of them as Pickering takes orders of 3 or more mail order. Maybe I'll do the same with the other two and just see what happens.
I take it that it will probably be some time before it's ready for the umbrella trellis if at all.
I'll have to watch it over the season and see what happens.
Thanks both of you karl, did you get to go to Florida yet? If so, must have been better weather than what we just had, a ft of snow yesterday! Of course, my plants are loving that too! I used to live in Sarasota for a few years. I miss the gulf a lot. But, they can keep the humidity. |
RE: Twister mini rose questions
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| 'Twister' isn't a large plant. Don't expect it to exceed 36" tall. It is also quite upright, not at all supple and cascading like some small climbers. |
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| What mini climber would you recommend then for a 36 inch tall umbrella trellis? Whatever one, it can't get too overly aggressive or it would cascade up and back down to the ground lol. I've heard things about Red Cascade and Work of Art. How are those? I don't think Pickering will let me change my order now. I'll have to look at their policies on that. Thanks all
Cathy |
RE: Twister mini rose questions
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| Hmmm -- that's a tough size -- I'd probably go with Twist, Red Cascade or maybe even Sweet Chariot. Or maybe a smaller Clematis. Or maybe both. Kathy |
RE: Twister mini rose questions
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Kent
I leave Thursday, God willing and the creek don't rise. We're expecting a snow storm south and west of the Chicago area Tuesday night into Wednesday but the highway crews are pretty efficent in these parts so I-65 and I-75 should be clear enough for me to get south into warmer temps.
I'm visiting my son in Palmetto and plan on going to Sarasota.
Regarding your three Twisters. Why not plant them together as one if you're concerned they may be small, or plant in individual pots and space them evenly in the barrel for a fuller effect. Being potted, if they get too large you can easily remove one or two pots. |
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Sounds like a plan to me! Have fun in Florida, while the rest of us shovel out lol.
Thankyou
Cathy |
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| My Twister has been a bit of a dud. I love the blooms, but I don't think it performs well during my hot summers. I only get one flush of flowers off of my rose. Yes, I like the blooms, but it's in a prime location, so I plan to take out of the ground and put it in a pot to see if it does better with different siting. If not, Twister is on it's way out. Lyn |
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