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Tue, Mar 5, 13 at 10:19
| Hi everyone, This summer I am going to be planting quite a few hybrid tea cuttings that have been maturing on my windows all winter. I thought that planting impatiens around them might be nice, but now I'm wondering if thats a bad idea. Do impatiens suck up too much water and act as competition for baby roses?? I know there was another thread talking about palm trees doing that, so I figured I should ask. Thank you, Maude |
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| Impatiens are shade growing plants and I don't think they would be happy with the amount of sun that roses need. |
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- Posted by kstrong 10 So Cal (kathystrong@gmail.com) on Tue, Mar 5, 13 at 11:07
| Yep, that's what I was going to say -- Impatiens are for shade, and Roses need their sun, which means they would NOT be happy growing together. Either the roses would not provide enough shade to make the impatiens happy, or the roses would not be happy because they were planted in the shade. |
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| also, unless they are the New Guinea impatiens, it is highly likely that the ordinary I.walleriania (sp?) will be decimated with downy mildew - a lot of the more responsible growers are not selling impatiens (or bizzie-lizzies as we refer to them in the UK) because the DM is incurable and rampant. There are many, many other plants you could have instead of impatiens. |
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| Maude, I echo the advice you've already been given here, assuming we are talking about traditional impatiens--i. walleriana, or New Guinea impatiens, both of which are shade lovers. There is a relatively new kind of impatiens that could work well with roses, however. Called Sunpatiens, they are, as the name suggests, sun tolerant, even sun-loving, depending on what climate you're in. Here in hot and dry southern California, they survive in full sun, but do better with morning sun/afternoon shade (much like sun tolerant coleus, or dark red roses). In places where the summers are a bit less severe, they would probably do fine in the same full sun that most roses enjoy. Color range is not as full as for other kinds of impatiens, but there are enough choices to complement a wide variety of rose colorations. (I'm partial to the blush pink.) In terms of where to find them, I've seen them everywhere, including Home Depot and Lowe's. They are also available from several large mail order nurseries, including Garden Crossings and Romence. Kay |
Here is a link that might be useful: Sunpatiens info
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- Posted by lola-lemon (My Page) on Tue, Mar 5, 13 at 15:11
| Maude, Many people plant other flowers (annuals and perennials) with their roses. They won't compete like a palm tree-- so it's A-OK. Like everyone above noted- it's best to plant plants that like the same conditions as your rose (full sun and deep watering NOT daily-- so NOT always wet soil). If you are looking for annuals-- I think calendula, pinks (pick a nice variety), or petunias etc. would work. If you don't have hot summers-- you might be able to grow impatients-- they might start to look bad mid summer and need to be replaced though. You might just need to feed your garden more if you go with something like petunias, which really go to town blooming if you feed them regularly. |
This post was edited by lola-lemon on Tue, Mar 5, 13 at 15:44
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| I saw nothing to suggest the Sunpatiens were immune to downy mildew - which surprised me as I would have expected them to be trumpeting this above all else given the devastating impact DM has been having on impatiens, both here in the UK and also in the US. Not a minor inconvenience but a game changer if you are a grower of these very popular, cheap and easy bedding plants (I am not but have been partial to white ones in deep shade). Apparently, the New Guinea hybrids do have resistance though. |
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| Seems like the Sakata seed co will have a winner with Sunpatiens since it is not affected by the dreadful DM, unlike the more usual I.walleriana. As for growing with roses, well, my friend does just that and she is fairly liberal with water and nutrients, unlike me. Her roses are just fine but the impatiens are an absolute eye-opener - they make massive 3foot high and wide shrubs, unlike the titchy little blobs more usually seen in the UK. Horses for courses - why not try it - they are fast and easy and you can rip them out without a qualm if you don't like them. |
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| Wow, thank you guys so much for the information. You all mentioned aspects that I hadn't even considered. I have always planted New guinea impatiens so I don't think mildew would be a problem. But for their first season outdoors, I think I will just stick with plain roses:) Maude |
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| Snapdragons like the same conditions as roses and you can get them in all different heights and colors, so tall one for the back ad short ones for the front. |
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