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TNY78 7a-East TN (
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Mon, Mar 4, 13 at 16:12
| I just received an email that Vintage Gardens will be officially closing 12/31/13 and will stop accepting orders June 30th. How heartbreaking :( Tammy |
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| Yes it is. They will no longer be selling roses as of June 30. However, the Friends of Vintage Roses, an entity which will soon be a legal non profit organization, owns & will be taking care of the huge collection of rare old roses, and will have a web site soon. They hope to eventually make the collection available to public view. They need a lot of help - right now you can donate to the Heritage Rose Foundation for them. I am looking forward to being able to get on their web site and find out what the plans are! It sounds as if Gregg will be staying active in the world of old roses, which is great. He has selflessly been traveling all over the world to speak, etc, and promote old roses for 30 years, and is one of the best/most delightful speakers I have heard on the subject. Jackie |
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| *Sigh* what a bummer. I'm very grateful for their efforts & am so glad I caught the rose-bug again & ordered big-time last fall. Now for a last look... |
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- Posted by TNY78 7a-East TN (My Page) on
Mon, Mar 4, 13 at 21:12
| Jackie, I'm curious...do you know if Friends of Vintage Gardens & the Heritage Rose Foundation are planning to relocate the collection, or if it will remain in it current location? I think that would have a huge inmpact on the timeline... I'm very happy that so many of these old roses are going to be preserved by them, but I think its also up to us to keep the roses alive and thriving, especially the older and more rare varieties. I have 28 being delivered next month, but I may take another look as well and see what varieties they are offering that can't be found elsewhere. Tammy |
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| Tammy -- You are right on target. The strongest aid to preservation of rare roses is distribution. So, if you grow them in TN, that's wonderful distribution. And, once you have them growing well -- propagate them, and share them with everyone around you. That's the best extension of our ability to preserve. Jeri |
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- Posted by TNY78 7a-East TN (My Page) on
Mon, Mar 4, 13 at 22:24
| Jeri, Recently, my husband and I purchased 10 acres with a creek running through it and we are breaking ground this summer on our new home. We are planning on keeping 5 acres for our home & dogs; and the other 5 acres we are planning on using as agricultural land. With my ever growing collection of roses, I think it will be great! Those 5 acres are going to be for my roses, his bees (love the idea of them polinating my roses!), and we want to get a couple small goats or sheep as well....seperated from the roses of course LOL :) I am so looking forward to it, and being able to really let some of my large ramblers run as wild as they want to!!! Last time I looked at the website, Vintage still had quite a few ramblers in stock, so I may add 2 or 3 of the more rare ones. Tammy |
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| Tammy -- That would be a good deed. That, and sharing them forward, as the years go by -- for roses are facing a Dark Age, and there is a huge need for bright spots such as the one you will build. Jeri |
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| Tammy, The plan at this time is to keep the collection where it is now. |
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| I ordered four roses last night without having a place to put them. It's a small thank you for the wonderful roses I've received from them over the years. Anything we can do to lessen Gregg's inventory of 9000 roses will make it easier for him to close down Vintage with less of a financial loss. Ingrid |
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| I'm with Ingrid. I'd already ordered nearly 70 roses in six waves of orders this winter/spring in dread of them closing, and I'll be back at their website looking for more roses to order to help the transition for Gregg. We can all help ourselves and each other, as Jeri and others point out, to plant and nurture these roses and have them available to share with rosarians of the future. How many roses were thought lost till we found them growing in neglected spaces! I've also donated to Friends of Vintage Gardens and will do so again. It's a service to myself as well as other rose lovers, and it's a small price to pay for all that Vintage has done to expand the vision of rose gardeners everywhere. Along with all of us, I grieve at the passing of a truly magnificent rose nursery. Cynthia |
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I ordered quite a few I don't have room for but most were petite little critters. I would like nothing better than a plot of land like yours Tammy and hopefully someday will have one. I wish there were a way to catalog and track locations and/or owners of certain roses. Seems with the internet it should be easy. I would assume Vintage as a non profit could easily track that info. Susan |
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| There is a way to track who has which roses: post your rose list on HMF. |
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| Susan which petite little critters did you order from Vintage? I'm always interested in those since I'm becoming space limited. I'm seriously considering taking out a fruiting olive tree to make more room though. Brining olives is hard work. I'm not sure anything is petite in this zone though. Mary |
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- Posted by TNY78 7a-East TN (My Page) on
Tue, Mar 5, 13 at 22:32
| I just emailed in a request for some that don't seem to be grown widely or are not currently offered by other nurseries (the list is on the Vintage Gardens thread on the Antique forum). Susan, I seem to have gone the exact opposite way of your ordering of "tiny little critters" haha, I went for a number of ramblers...and a couple other gallicas and such "huge big monsters"?? You are more than welcome to plant on my land, altohugh a three hour drive every day might be a little much just to "smell the roses" :) Mary...do what I did in partially shaded areas, just start to get shade tolerant roses....most of my hybrid musks and albas couldn't be happier than in the shade of a nice tree! ...and I think I remember reading someplace that hybrid musks are one of the most at-risk classes of roses...perfect reason to order! Cynthia, I'm happy so hear someone else has a big order placed with them! I have alittle over 70 total ordered, but they're spead out between a number of nurseries. That will be one big box when it arrives for you! tammy |
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| Thanks Tammy. I didn't know that about hybrid musks and albas and I have some semi shaded areas. Mary |
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| Tammy, You are in a high risk zone for RRD. HMs and any other rose (ie, polys and ramblers) that have a lot of multiflora in their genes seem to be particularly at risk to RRD. I lost almost all of mine to it when RRD swept thru here (Roanoke) a couple of years ago (I've replanted now). Tho RRD can get everything, I have noted a preference. Other roses along the same path were fine. My advise would be to plant them out of the way of prevailing winds. I'd also scour your area to know where any stands of multiflora are. Even if you can't take them out, knowing the wind vectors will help you plant yours in a safer spot. I had multiflora along my creek and it was fine for years and then one year it just blossomed with RRD and I've been kicking myself ever since for not destroying it in the first place. My last two years of rose purchases have been mostly replacements. With VG going down, replacing roses will be harder to do. Do post your list on HMF. Those of us with lots of space and lots of roses should be especially dutiful about that (I'll renew my list in June: I have 50+ roses coming this spring). |
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- Posted by TNY78 7a-East TN (My Page) on
Wed, Mar 6, 13 at 9:25
| Thank you for the tip Catrose. The land is in between two ridges, so the winds should be pretty easy to adjust my plantings to since it will generally go in a strait line down the valley (I live in a similar area now..all my trees lean one direction lol). Its such a shame about the RRD and I'm sorry to hear that it tends to favor multiflora hybrids, since they grow so well in my acidic clay. I know it can effect any rose budded or ownroot, but Most of my roses are ownroot. However, but if I buy any on rootstock, 9 out of 10 times it will be on multiflora..does that put me at greater risk as well? My roses are listed on HMF as Tammy's Tennessee Garden...check them out :) |
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- Posted by beth NorCA 9 (My Page) on
Wed, Mar 6, 13 at 21:56
| Does anybody know if they will take any more custom orders? I mean it says they will be propagated in May and June. I just wonder if I can squeak in an order for a rose I really want that died on me. No one else has it. I guess I can call or email to find out. |
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- Posted by TNY78 7a-East TN (My Page) on
Thu, Mar 7, 13 at 8:23
| Beth, someone on the Antique forum said that the custom order deadline was last year :( maybe if someone else grows it they can send you cuttings or root it for you? If its something I grow I wouldnt care to root it. |
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| I just ordered 8 roses, hope they are all available. For those that didn't see my pictures of Pink Rosette on the Antique Roses thread on Vintage, I will put them up. This is a sweet rose and a good bloomer of big bouquets in my warm climate and has almost smooth canes. Very well behaved growing low and not having issues with rust or blackspot. Just a little mildew sometimes, nothing really bad. |

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- Posted by TNY78 7a-East TN (My Page) on
Thu, Mar 7, 13 at 11:56
| Kitty, I'm so excited to hear that you like Pink Rosette! Its coming later this month with my ARE order. I think that Vintage and ARE are the only ones who offer it. After seeing your pictures, I think it will be going along my front walkway where it looks like I lost Cupcake this winter. Stunning picture! |
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| Kitty, your gorgeous pictures have prompted me to change my Vintage order to substitute Pink Rosette for Souvenir de la Malmaison. I'm keeping my fingers crossed since the order is supposed to be sent on Monday. I wish I'd known about this rose much sooner, but thanks for calling my attention to it now. Ingrid |
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