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Red Rose/Raspberry smell
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Posted by
runswithscissors MT zone 4 (
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Mon, Mar 5, 12 at 16:35
| Hello,
When I moved to this new house there was this red rose. Obviously a hybrid tea by the perfect shape of the flower. It is a deep, dark red with a velvetty soft look. The leaves start out a burgandy color and then turn green. It grows about 3-4 ft high and carries one or two blooms at all times throughout the summer. It is hardy! No protection for 5 years now and keeps coming back. But here's the best part: It has an intensly raspberry smell. It is so wonderful it almost makes me high when I pass by it.
After reading so many catalogs and on-line descriptions, plus some threads here, I decided it was a Mr. Lincoln. So I went to the nursery, plopped down $60 bucks on two beautiful Lincolns. They grew great. And the blooms are a nice dark red...but alas, they smell very, very rosey.
Can anyone tell me what kind of a raspberry-rose I probably have? I'm going to try taking cuttings this year since I haven't been able to find this rose in any nursery or catalog. |
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RE: Red Rose/Raspberry smell
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- Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
Mon, Mar 5, 12 at 17:49
| I would need to see some pictures to even venture a guess as to what your rose is but there were 3 roses (available in the USA) that came up when I did a search on Help Me Find that are supposed to have a raspberry fragrance, Veterans' Honor, Love's Promise and Firefighter. All three are a dark red with HT style blooms. |
RE: Red Rose/Raspberry smell
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| Yes, photos would be very helpful! Could be Oklahoma, Chrysler Imperial or Crimson Glory as well - all have "similar" scents - I find Chrysler Imperial and Crimson Glory to be the most intoxicating. |
RE: Red Rose/Raspberry smell
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Veteran's Honor in my yard has very strong raspberry frgrance. Oklahoma, Mr Lincoln, Chrysler Imperial or Crimson Glory are all wonderfully fragrant, but their fragrancies are very different.
It always surprises me that VH is often described as not fragrant or slightly fragrant. My VH is planted next to my deck door and it perfumes the whole deck. Everybody comment on its fragrance, so it is not just me. Olga |
RE: Red Rose/Raspberry smell
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| Among the three roses Seil listed (Veterans' Honor, Love's Promise and Firefighter), the most fragrant one is Firefighter. I vote for this wonderful and vigorous rose. But the same 9/11 rose, orange colored "We Salute You" has even stronger fruity smell, though I am not sure it is raspberry. We planted side by side. Both of them have distinct strong fruity smells. But always "We Salute You" wins for me. Other people say they like "Firefighter" better. |
RE: Red Rose/Raspberry smell
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| Hi RWS: Since I'm in a cold zone like your zone 4, I always look for hardy and TALL red HT's. Mr. Lincoln is NOT hardy in zone 5a. This is our mildest winter in over a decade, but other winters the rosarian Karl Bapst, zone 5a grew it twice and Mr. Lincoln died on him. The rose park, Zone 5a, got rid of Mr. Lincoln and planted Chrysler Imperial, but this rose doesn't have much of scent in cold weather (it's very short). Chrysler Imperial is under 3' at the rose park, I had to crawl to sniff it in late fall (it didn't smell that good). Firefighter is tall, 4' to 5', that's why I'm getting it but it requires winter protection. The hardy ones that are reported WITHOUT winter-protection in zone 5a/4 remain Mirandy and Crimson Glory. Mirandy is dark red velvelty soft as you described, and is 4' to 3' tall. Mirandy is reported as fruity, and as good as Jude the Obscure by one account. Crimson glory is damask and rosy scent. I'm getting Crimson glory this spring because my kid doesn't like dark red. Crimson glory's thorns are not bad, but Mirandy's thorns are closer. There's a picture in Help Me Find website that show Mirandy's thorns. If it match with yours, then there's a good chance it's Mirandy, known for the best hardiness in zone 4 and 5a. |
Alec's Red is another bright red, and not dark red
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| Alec's Red is also on my rose order, since it's hardier than Veterans' Honor. Both Alec's Red and Veterans' Honor are BRIGHT RED, and they are not deep dark velvelty red as you described. Someone in my zone reported growing Mirandy without winter protection for over a decade. |
RE: Red Rose/Raspberry smell
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| Gosh, thanks so much for all the ideas. I had been looking at Veteran's Honor and Chrysler Imperial, but couldn't make an informed guess. My two Mr. Lincoln's did fine this warm winter, so I'll get to enjoy them for another summer at least. I threw some straw over them for winter protection, and thats it. I want their spots to be filled with "My Rose!" tho. They're getting moved this spring. |
RE: Red Rose/Raspberry smell
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| I'll lay wagers that what you have is Mirandy. I've grown mine unprotected in zone 4 for 20 years; the fruity scent is one of my very favorites. Order one - you can't go wrong anyway - and you may find it's your match. Either way, I'm sure you'll love it. :-) |
RE: Red Rose/Raspberry smell
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| This rose sounds like Let Freedom Ring. |
RE: Red Rose/Raspberry smell
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Tue, Mar 13, 12 at 14:24
| VH smells raspberry, but the fragrance is never very strong. 'Mirandy' sounds more likely. |
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