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Polyantha

Posted by rebeccah_2009 6 (My Page) on
Sat, Mar 10, 12 at 19:56

I have a book that has these roses in it. I would like to have them but I have never saw them in a Greenhouse. Does anybody grow these or are they even available anywhere?


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RE: Polyantha

Polyanthas are one of my favorite roses. I think most people who get interested in roses eventually buy mostly mail order. Some mail order nurseries with good selections of polyanthas are: Roses Unlimited, Chamblees, Vintage Gardens, Antique Rose Emporium, Rogue valley Roses,Burlington Roses and Pickerings. There are more good sources that I can't pull to mind right now. You should visit the Helpmefind roses web site and do a search for a specific polyantha. You'll find all sorts of information , including sources.

Here is a link that might be useful: Too Cute at Helpmefind


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Rebeccah, there are MANY Polyantha roses in commerce. Some are newly-created, and many are older. They're a very good choice for the newer, smaller gardens, as they're (generally speaking) relatively small plants, and generous bloomers.

For a quick overview of the Polyantha family, try the Polyantha listings in the Vintage Gardens website, for very good descriptions of individual cultivars. Then, spread out to other nurseries, perhaps some closer to your area. Remember, if you're looking for a specific rose, HelpMeFind roses can tell you which nurseries carry it.

But though the original Polyanthas were bred from crosses between China and Multiflora roses, there are later members of the clan that incorporate other rose families. I can't say which Polyanthas would be best for you, as I am an occasional short-term visitor to TN, but not a resident.

Jeri

Here is a link that might be useful: Vintage Gardens Rose Nursery Website


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thanks for telling me how to get info on these. I don't know why they're not sold around here. Are they repeat bloomers?


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Polyanthas are among the most continuous bloomers, in my experience, in Southern California.

Jeri


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Rebeccah, you've honestly probably seen them, but didn't have your attention drawn to them. Many of the Poulsen Town & Country and other series landscape roses (Martha's Vineyard, Cape Cod, Natchez, etc.) are really just polyanthas, but called something else because "no one buys polyanthas today".

Are you familiar with The Fairy? How about Marie Pavie? La Marne? They're really all around you and have been since the late 1880s. If you have a premium membership to Help Me Find, you can use the Advanced Search, tell it to search for polyanthas and have a field day. They're great landscape roses, which is what they were bred for in the first place, and still used all over Europe (their original home)for that purpose.

The floribunda roses you probably grow are bred from polyanthas. The very best of them flower continuously and you can find them in any color (other than gray, green and brown) you can find any other class of roses, including dark purple.

Today, you can find many of them hiding in the "shrub" category as well as "mini" and "ground cover" and "landscape rose" categories as well. Just look for denser, relatively shorter, small flowers in clusters which bloom like weeds and you're pretty sure to have one. Kim


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Having Multiflora as one parent, do they suffer from chlorosis in alkaline soil?

FJ


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Yes i have heard of The Fairy but I didn't know it was a polyantha. I think it was in the shrub section at the greenhouse last year.


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Yes ma'am, they "hide" many places. Once you've familiarized yourself with some of the more easily obtainable ones, you'll begin noticing them more and more.

Yes, some of them are more prone to chlorosis in highly alkaline soils, but not all. Hybrid Musks and polyanthas are both strongly multiflora based. Those which more closely take after their multiflora parent (both classes) are more prone to chlorosis.

I grow these and can point out the more chlorotic of them.
Some aren't officially classed as polys, but they fit and perform perfectly well with the others. The asterisks indicate those more prone to chlorosis in my alkaline soil and water. Kim

Anda
*Baby Faurax
*Bashful
*Doc
*Ellen Poulsen
*Gloria Mundi
La Marne
Lauren
Leonie Lamesch
Little Butterfly
Marie Pavie
*Mignonette
Morey's Pink
Pink Gate
Pink Koster
Pookah
Red Fairy
*Sunshine
*Sweet Nothings
Too Cute
*Verdun
Werner von Blon
White Cecile Brunner
Wild Dancer


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  • Posted by TNY78 7a-East TN (My Page) on
    Sun, Mar 11, 12 at 13:50

I grow a number of Polyantha's in East TN, a couple of my favorites that have done well for me are The Fairy, Clothilde Soupert (large blooms for a poly), White Koster, Phyllis Bide, and the 7 dwarves series (Dopey, Doc, Bashful, etc) They're flowers aren't the typical "rose" flowers most people know, but they are great repeaters and their blooms last here in our TN heat :)


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We grow Lady Reading, which I'd have thought would be troubled by chlorosis, but it is not.

Jeri


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I've been looking at polyanthas on helpmefind and I have a groundcover rose here that I bet is a polyantha. I forgot the name of the rose but I have had it for about 6 years. It does extremely well here for me.


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If you still have the tag on it, Rebeccah, it would be interesting to find out which it is. Many which aren't generally thought of as polys, really are. Kim


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  • Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
    Sun, Mar 11, 12 at 20:36

You've gotten tons of great poly suggestions here. They're wonderful work horses in the garden. I have Blanche Neige (AKA White Koster), Verdun and Zenaitta and all three of them bloom their heads off all season long!


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