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New Austins

Posted by amberroses 10a-Pinellas Co.FL (My Page) on
Wed, Mar 28, 12 at 20:51

They announced the new David Austin Roses. What do you think? I could make some room for a few of those I'm sure. I guess I'll have to wait at least a couple years before they get them in the US.

Here is a link that might be useful: Five new Austins


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No room in my garden, but they make my heart beat faster when I look at them!


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Thanks for the preview. No room left--but they make wild visions appear in my head of digging new beds--but where?

LOL

Kate


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Well done for finding this, been keeping my eye out for the new releases, looks like Heathcliff is the one for me lol - hate the name mind you. May try a Royal Jubilee - looks like a pink version of Wollerton Old Hall or The Generous Gardener.


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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Wed, Mar 28, 12 at 22:37

Whenever I hear "Heathcliff" I always think of Monty Python's "Semaphore Wuthering Heights".

Pretty roses!

Here is a link that might be useful: Oh, Heathcliff!


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�Tranquillity� is an English Musk hybrid.

*** What the H*ll is an "English Musk hybrid"??

It would be so useful if they would put their releases into an established classification, so people wouldn't have to guess.

Jeri


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An English Musk Hybrid is a cross between the DA Old Rose Hybrids and Noisettes. It's all there on his website. He almost had to split them up - there are so many and they are so different. I'd be interested what 'established class' you'd put them in. Basically a modern hybrid.


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Here is the link to the information about the new classifications from the website. It certainly wasn't easy to find.

Here is a link that might be useful: New Classifications of English Roses


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Caldonbeck.......

With all due respect, he could have called them anything he wanted to call them as the firm does not disclose the lineage of any of the roses being introduced, and even patented, and no one outside the firm would have a clue as to how to classify them based upon parentage information. Note: Lineage was disclosed with the very early releases of the Austin roses.

Since many of old English roses have 'Iceberg' in their lineage which is a cross of 'Robin Hood' (hybrid musk) x 'Virgo' (hybrid tea) or 'Heritage' (Older English Rose/shrub) which is a cross of an unnamed seedling x 'Iceberg', it's possible they decided to call this group of roses "English Musk Roses" because they include 'Robin Hood' in the 'Iceberg' lineage.

So it really comes down to plant habit and where the roses grow well. Classification of his roses are a bit of a mystery to the rest of us. In this case, I think it's more marketing than classification.

I am not saying they are not good roses, I don't know because I don't know anyone growing them.

Smiles,
Lyn


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New already! I'm still thinking Lady of Shalott is new and a must have. Heathcliff is gorgeous!


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