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| Do you have roses that are supposed to be fragrant, but can never detect much fragrance, if any from them? Four that I can think of that I have or have had that are described as having a strong fragrance and I have never detected fragrance from them are - Tropicana I was wondering if any of the above are fragrant for you? And are there others that you have experienced as not being fragrant, but are supposed to be? Lack of fragrance is not a deal breaker, especially if the rose has other strong attributes, but it is kind of disappointing when you're expecting it to be fragrant. I know I don't have any problem detecting fragrance, because there are several I have that are always fragrant. The top ten are - Pink Peace I have quite a few other fragrant roses too, but the above mentioned are probably the most consistently fragrant ones. I do realize fragrance is subjective, but I am just curious about this. |
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- Posted by bayarea-girl NorCA 9b (My Page) on Mon, Mar 10, 14 at 2:54
| I have two climbing America roses and I asked the lady at the nursery where I bought them the same question that you ask because I couldn't detect any fragrance from them at the nursery. She told me that for certain roses, it depends on the time of the day their fragrances might be stronger or none at all. I thought she just tried to sell the roses but she is right. I can detect their fragrance now. Good luck with yours. |
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| I definitely agree with you about Tropicana- I get NO scent at all from it. Do you grow Oklahoma? When mine is blooming, I feel like I could stand and sniff it ALL DAY! |
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- Posted by the_morden_man (Z4-Z5) Ontario, Can (My Page) on Mon, Mar 10, 14 at 12:54
| Many factors can influence the fragrance inherent to a rose. Time of day, temperature, moisture, soil and much, much more. It is also important to note that everyone processes scent differently. There are roses in my garden that are wonderfully fragrant to my senses, but that barely register to my wife. The opposite is also true. |
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- Posted by canadian_rose zone 3a (My Page) on Mon, Mar 10, 14 at 20:08
| I can smell nothing from Oklahoma! Although there are many roses that had no smell at all until their 3rd or 4th years - then wow!! These are ones that had no smell, but now have great fragrance: - Memorial Day - my goodness this is fragrant!! These have no fragrance - so I'm hopeful that they'll come around: - Just Joey I find that very strange that it takes quite a few years for fragrance to come in for some of my roses. Whereas others are fragrant from year one. Carol |
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| Thanks for your input. For some reason I find this an interesting topic, I guess because I do love fragrant roses, and sometimes fragrance can be so illusive. Carol - Interesting that Oklahoma is not fragrant for you, but seems to be very fragrant for most people. I am going to have to get that rose, I should have it already. I remember reading a comment about Tropicana in a rose book, a gentleman stated it "smelled no better than cardboard," not very flattering, I don't detect cardboard, just no scent at all! I recall last summer I took a Peace rose to my co-worker a couple of times during the season, because it is her favorite, she could smell it as soon as she entered the building. I have always detected a light scent from Peace, but it's never been strong. |
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| America's perfume is strong & deep to me, losing just a little each day till the bloom shatters. Yet those for sale last year that I sniffed had just the barest whiff, though I checked each bloom on several plants. Maturity of some plants? Seems known fragrant blooms become more strongly scented when they receive lots of water as the flowers form. Last Summer we had much more & frequent rain than usual, and the roses' perfume cranked way up. |
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| I'll third your complaint about America! Mine does have some fragrance--maybe even 'moderate' fragrance--but it really isn't special. I think I sniff it the least of all my roses~ I'm not too partial to its colour, either--a pink closer to fuchsia than salmon, for me--but I love the flower form; and I'm always amazed at how long the flowers last, staying perfectly cupped right to the end; and the plant survives our 4b winters without protection even though it always dies to the ground, so it stays :) |
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| Scent is probably the most subjective aspect of roses. Every rose reacts differently to it's conditions and may smell wonderful in one place and not at all in another. The temperatures, the soil, the humidity and probably a hundred other factors could all affect the scent of a rose. And everyone's nose is different too. What smells divine for one may reek for another. I don't go by what other report for fragrance any more. I go by what MY nose tells me. |
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| Seil (above), I actually don't think I can ever remember being surprised by the scent of a rose I knew, no matter where it was growing--Oregon or Alabama or Ontario--, but then I'm not at all talking about subtleties, just about recognizing favourite smells of favourite roses, and so on. I wonder about other people's experiences of coming upon familiar roses growing away from home. |
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| I have also been wondering about the old garden roses and their fragrance. I guess they need to get established before the scent comes through, I remember that it was that way with my first Zephirine Drouhin. My Rose de Rescht bloomed the most of my old garden roses and I haven't detected much fragrance them it yet either. |
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- Posted by nikthegreek 9b/10a E of Athens (My Page) on Thu, Mar 13, 14 at 8:32
| Sara-Ann, I don't think it is really a matter of the rose getting established. My RdR gave out quite a strong old rose fragrance, for my nose, since it first bloomed in my garden. If the climatic conditions are right the scent will be mostly there. Now, whether one's nose can catch the scent or not is a personal matter. Every rose that is reported as fragrant IS fragrant. At least to some. Nik |
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| And there's the proof of the pudding, Sara! My Rose de Rescht is one of THE most fragrant roses in my garden. Probably only beaten by my Reine des Violettes for strength of fragrance. |
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| This topic comes up here from time to time. There are numerous factors which control rose scent. Many, such as time of day or year, recent weather and soil moisture are mentioned above. The type of scent is also important. I cannot detect tea scent at all. In fact, most of my roses offer only a slight fragrance. RdR and my Rugosa Rootesmeer smell strong in the spring. Surprisingly, I can smell a sweet, fruity fragrance from Knock Out during its massive spring flush (the power of numbers?). Overall, I cannot easily detect most rose fragrances. Yet I am overwhelmed by lilac, Korean Spice viburnum, hyacinth and butterfly bush in my garden. Since each of us is different, it is difficult to offer a definitive explantion of rose scent. |
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| It seems like most of the conflicting reports of a given rose's fragrance are all about degree, not kind? Or has someone had a different experience with a certain rose? |
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- Posted by somestrangewoman (My Page) on Wed, Apr 9, 14 at 0:22
| Hi, I'm new here. I have a question that is partially on topic, I wouldn't know what key words to use to search a possible thread for this. My question is about identifying a rose by fragrance alone. When I was about 7 years old, my great grandmother had roses in her yard. The flower color I remember seeing was a lighter shade pink, somewhere between cameo and pale peach colored. But it's the fragrance that I strongly remember, and have been searching for this fragrance during my adult life. I found a really similar fragrance when I smelled "Tangerine Streams" at Heirloom Roses the other day, but the fragrance was very faint and faded after a couple sniffs. The fragrance I'm searching for smells much like warmed red grapes, lilac and wood. Can anyone possibly identify this rose? Thanks in advance. |
This post was edited by somestrangewoman on Wed, Apr 9, 14 at 0:30
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