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tare zone5b (
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Wed, Apr 18, 12 at 14:00
| Hi all,
I havent been here since last year and it's nice to be back. I have a question about a tree rose I just received from Jackson and Perkins. It is Our Lady of Guadalupe and it doesnt seem to be grafted! How can this be? I see no bud union on it. Are they making non-grafted tree roses now? I was a bit disappointed in it as it has 3 spindly canes on it. Not the thick ones I'm used to seeing. Any ideas? |
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RE: Tree Rose Question
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| Welcome back! Take a look where the three spindly canes come out of the trunk. That's where it's budded. Dr. Huey whips are rooted, then the tops are budded with the desired rose. While it's possible to develop quite a few large, vigorous roses into one piece trees, Our Lady isn't one of them. She just doesn't generate the thickness nor strength and length of wood required. Yours is budded, right where Our Lady comes out of the trunk. Kim |
RE: Tree Rose Question
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| Tare, you probably knew this, but a tree rose will have to be tipped and buried for winter, or else potted and moved to shelter. The lowest temperature for exposed floribundas would likely be between 5 and 10 F. |
RE: Tree Rose Question
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- Posted by tare zone5b (My Page) on
Wed, Apr 18, 12 at 14:45
| I looked closely, but I could not see any bud graft. I will look again tonight! Unless it's so smooth it has blended with the trunk? Yes, my rose trees are in pots so I can move them in winter.......... |
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- Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
Wed, Apr 18, 12 at 20:31
| Can you post a picture of the graft area? I have to agree with Kim that it would be grafted. I have heard of people creating their own tree roses on own root plants by pruning them in some manner but it's rare and I've never heard of them being for sale. I wouldn't worry about the three puny canes. OLoG is a pretty bushy plant and it should fill out nicely for you. Give it some time to mature. |
RE: Tree Rose Question
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| I bought two this year for pots either side of a gate. They are from David Austin directly. They have grafted a long standard cane onto an established rootstock, then they have been budded at the top with 4 buds spread all round, from the top bud to the 4th is about 6" down the cane - each has sprouted 3 stems so there are 12 coming out of the various buds at the top. They are (relatively) newly budded, you can still see the flaps in the bark from the T buds. If yours are like that, you will see no gnarly union at the top, they look just like they are its own buds. I was very impressed with them, seen them with one maybe two buds usually not this many!! My only issue with them so far is that they don't seem to have disbudded the standard cane that well, there are a few buds swelling - easy to pinch out though. I think one bud with three shoots, like a normal grafted rose would look kind of uneven at first, presume they will come right after a while. The only thing with mine though was that they were bare roots collected from the nursery, I always wonder if they are a little less vicious with the pruning when they are collected. These just looked like nicely pruned roses!! |
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- Posted by tare zone5b (My Page) on
Thu, Apr 19, 12 at 13:21
| Yes, that's how mine looks. I looked closely again last night and cant see any bud graft. The branches look like they are coming directly out of the trunk! Weird. I dont have a way to post pics unfortunately. After checking some pics, OLOG's canes do look like that, so I guess it's what it's supposed to be. Will find out soon! |
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