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Wed, Apr 11, 12 at 17:03
| I have a red rose tentatively id'd as 'Gloire des Rosomanes' (earlier mistakenly called a 'Mister Lincoln' by someone well-meaning but mis-informed) and it's balling in the rain like crazy.
What do I do? Do I cut the buds off? If so, at what stage? I'm so sorry to start a new message on this, but I truly have not been able to find answers, here or elsewhere. |
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RE: Not used to rain this late- what should I do?
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| Sometimes you can peel off the outer petals and buds will open. Or remove buds as soon as they are damaged, which will speed rebloom by a week or two. |
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| Re the blooms - what Michael said. Re the rain - don't worry, be happy! Your rose will be happier for it in the end. Jackie |
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| If it's small enough, a cheap beach umbrella may help. I used it for my smaller Souv. Malmaison and my Clotilde Soupert. They're good to have in case of heatwaves as well. I have also used an inexpensive picnic canopy that they sell at the drugstores in summer ( the metal frame with a tarp in a box for about 20-25 dollars ) It takes a few minutes to set up but is worth it if your roses look great and are just starting to open. Hang another tarp on the side that blows wind and weight it down with bricks or rocks. I keep all my roses that may ball in the back because all the tarps and umbrellas make an odd sight. This works for camellias as well. |
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| Dance, and thank the rain gods for helping us out with what was to be a horrendous drought! |
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| If the blooms have enough petals to "ball," what you have is probably not 'Gloire des Rosomanes.' aka "Ragged Robin," it doesn't have enough petals to ball -- which is just one of the many things I love about it. Here is one of the more double versions of it, collected in the remnants of a garden where a small cottage once stood. (Built in the 1880's, it burned to the ground in the 1960's, and was abandoned, leaving some few lovely plants to fend for themselves. 
Jeri |
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| Okay- so I ran over to the neighbors' house to take a picture of their balling rose that looks just like mine and I swear it's unfurling just to spite me. This thing is 8-10 feet tall.
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| NewGirl -- it looks more like, oh, 'Mister Lincoln,' or 'Oklahoma,' or 'Chrysler Imperial.' It's not 'Gloire des Rosomanes'/"Ragged Robin", however. If you are near the Bay Area, you might take blooms to the Celebration of Old Roses, El Cerrito Community Center, May 20. They have a table for unidentified roses, and I suspect yours can speedily be I.D.'d Don't worry about the balling, tho. Heck, if you were a rose, standing out in this weather, would YOU want to take your coat off??? ;-) Jeri |
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| I am glad you posted this and the photos, we rarely get rain this late in the year. I have been looking at those red roses stuck in their outer petal coats and kicking my self thinking I was something I did them. |
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| Another thing you can do if the outer petals seem stuck is to take off the outermost ones and then the rest of the rose sometimes will continue to open up. I have given them a few squeezes to help loosen them as well. Sometimes the water gets in and there is a brown rot at the base. In that case, snap the whole thing off. I have a few opening in the house right now that started to get stuck outside and they are opening fine in the house. |
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| Jeri- I would love to go to the San Francisco show, but I live right in Sacramento and I'm only letting myself do the Cemetary Open Garden (and maybe just a couple more, like the one in Sebastapol.) If it is a Mister Lincoln I will owe my mother a super huge apology because that's what she said it probably was and I didn't believe her. It's the same bush that threw a quartered bloom late last summer. I really, really hope it does that again because it was stunning. But what really matters is that the plant will be okay and I can stop panicing and enjoy the other flowers I have right now. Thank you everyone!! |
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| Well, when you go to the Open Garden, take some blooms with you. Ask some of the folks there -- Barb Oliva, if you can find her, but most of the Cemetery folks would know -- and see if they can't tell you. I can't get any closer than "probably Mister Lincoln, or maybe Oklahoma, or possibly Chrysler Imperial." But I'd bet it's one of the three. Jeri |
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