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Getting older - Not wiser - Strained back

Posted by cupshaped_roses (My Page) on
Sun, Apr 15, 12 at 17:50

Almost done pruning and have been planting 37 new bareroot roses friday and saturday - when I woke up this morning my back was killing me!!! I needed to take a day off - get some rest and painkillers. At 42 I am in pretty good shape - but digging those big holes and driving the wheelbarrow with that much soil and compost - to ammend the soil - really got me this time - and makes me feel older. I wonder when I will become wiser and learn to take it more easy - and put to use what I know about correct working positions - in order not to strain my back. I am sure many of you have been there? Planting many roses are HARD WORK :-)


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RE: Getting older - Not wiser - Strained back

42? I laugh at 42!!!

I asked poor dear DH to help me dig up an old dead azalea. It actually had two offshoots (or so I thought) that I wanted to try and save and move. We haven't had any rain to speak of, and even though I used the soaker hose in the bed yesterday, the ground was hard as rock. We managed to get #1 out. The we started on the side ones. The first one came out, but the second one was tough. That's because it was actually 3! these were suckers from runners from the original plant. I also asked him to dig up these suckers from my boxwood that are driving me crazy. We planted a Japanese Maple in the spot. I was also working in the vegetable garden.

Luckily I have some rather strong muscle relaxers that may help if I need them. I also usually take ibuprofen before and right after working in the yard. That prevents some of the inflammation.

I guess you do get wiser as you age. Because if you don't, you are going to suffer !!!!!


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LOL - I just do not remember having to resort to rest and DOPING earlier on Buford! I could get away with working hard for days, and yes - I did get sore muscles - but nothing like the strained back that is killing me today ...and makes feel old and stupid ...not sure which is worse.

Digging up shrubs are hard work - I sure can relate - and I am happy for you that you got it done.

In the future I will take it more easy and take more days to get the job done ...still have 7 more roses to plant and are going to a rose nusery this week - I think I will try to control myself ...


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I'm tired just thinking of planting 37 new roses and pruning all in one weekend! You're crazy! (But your yard must be beautiful if you work like this!)


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Wine helps.


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weed helps too


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Yes mzstitch - I am crazy about roses - and now I can look forward seen them grow and bloom over the next many years :-) - it has taken me over 2 weeks to prune my roses this year - I wihs I had only planted 10-12 every day - limiting the time digging every day.Digging those big holes really is hard.

Wine helps - A little Buford - a little :-)


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Oh, how I feel and share your pain! Two weeks ago I started having horrible lower-back pain and ended up hobbling to the chiropractor. It seems that 20 years of improperly hunching over in the gardens plus sitting at a computer has ruined my lower pelvic bones and feet. I thought it was lower back and spine but fortunately they are in in good shape according to the chiropractor. I'm in rehab therapy learning how to use my muscles properly and get things working again so I can bend without being in agony.

I always knew those wretched nasty weeds were evil but now here's additional proof....they ruin your bones and posture.


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Nice to see you posting Niels. About middle age: get ready, and learn to enjoy it! This is from the perspective of 54.
I ruined my knees digging when I was about 48 or 50, and it took a few years before they were reasonably functional again. I still can't dig like I used to, and will never be able to again, and there are other things I wouldn't care to try, like backpacking with a heavy pack or cycling up a hill. But I can do a twelve mile walk in hill country. When I was recovering from my knee injuries I got a lot of help from chiropractic and then in Italy from an osteopath. Extremely helpful for maintenance is a lot of walking. This seems to align the skeleton and strengthen muscles to support weakening joints. I have a long history of back, neck, and knee problems, but for the last couple of years haven't had any troubles at all; I believe this is because I take care to walk several miles a week.
I hope you feel better soon!
Melissa


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Niels, the answer is not to stop planting roses, but to continually exercise your body by consistently planting more roses. This builds up muscle tone. It's also like having children. You forget the pain when you see them bloom and grow!

I hope you feel better soon. :)


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I'll vote for a regular conditioning exercise program. I have a girlfriend, my age, 64, who has exercised every day all of her adult life. No heavy weights, just 20-30 minutes of good stretches and strengthening exercises.

I started to follow her example about 5 years ago and found that I had very little spring pain as long as I kept up the program. I have better agility and endurance, too. I HATE to exercise, but I don't miss the pain and as long as I can work harder and longer than I did 5 years ago, I am going to keep up the program.

Like all gardeners, I get plenty of exercise in the garden, but those morning sessions let me work pain free.

Smiles,
Lyn


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I've also started wearing heavy work boots while gardening, even in the hot summer. I have a lot of foot and ankle problems and this has helped. And it also helps my lower back. I have scoliosis so I have to watch my posture carefully.


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Ah - completely relate to being an "over-doer". After having a bad spinal compression fracture in a horse wreck years ago, I always wear a back brace when I do any heavy physical work and it helps IMMENSELY! Brand I use is Mueller Lumbar Back Brace with removable pad, you can buy them over the internet for around $40. It is the best lumbar back saver on the market (for me at least). I've never gotten wiser, and don't want to slow down. Pain meds help too :) Also Lidoderm topical idocaine patches (must be prescribed). 53 this year. Hoping for at least 30 years more of physical labor (or until I drop, whichever comes first).


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I too can relate to back pain.
Stretching, regular walking, baths with epson salts, regular massage and cocktails.
Not necessarily in that order or all at once...! LOL

Hope you feel better soon :)


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Sympathies on the back pain! I'm with Lyn and Melissa for this one on keeping up with regular exercise and toning for helping reduce the spring "garden back/knee" symptoms. I'm also into my 50's and planted 35 or so roses yesterday (Saturday was 3 inches of rain and tornados), and I find I have to be much more careful about body position as I garden these days. I have chronic sciatica pain in my right hip, and I've learned from my PT that EVERYTHING is connected to those core muscles, and that pain in one area may stem from problems elsewhere. My sciatica is even affected by how tight my hands are at the wrists (go figure). I've had to learn how to shovel right foot first and that's mentally painful as much as anything!

I do 2 hours a day pretty faithfully at my local YMCA (half aerobics, half toning) and have started teaching our Pilates class. It's amazing how much difference a little repositioning can make in those back and joint problems everywhere. Just a minor change in tucking in at the pelvis has helped a colleague get past back pain from walking and working out. I've gotten so I can tell when I'm stressing out one body part too much, and I'll stop mid-gardening and do some stretches or change my activity for a while to get things back in balance. We've learned over the years to listen to our roses, now we have to do the same favor and listen to our bodies! Not exactly quick fixes in either case, but definitely worth it.

Cynthia


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I have to admit, I would never manage 1 to 2 hours every day ! I am totally bored and wanting to go outside in about 40 minutes tops. It took my friend 2 years to talk me into doing exercises every day.

I did go to physical therapy to develop a routine that hit my problem areas specifically and to learn a routine that I can do regularly and not feel too put out that I "have to exercise".

I've managed the pain from a permanent back injury, an tear in one of the ligaments of one of my knees and now a shoulder injury with targeted exercises.

The heaviest weight I use is 5 lbs., and I use a light resistance band during my routine. I am not buff and that's not my goal. I just want to work pain free.

I am not a doctor, so please check with one before you start an exercise program, so that you get the right advice for you.

I have had good results and have to agree that it is very much worth the time and effort. Even a little bit of work makes a difference.

Smiles,
Lyn


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  • Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
    Mon, Apr 16, 12 at 19:27

Sorry to hear you hurt you back! No fun at all I know. I usually do something similar the first nice day. I go out and way over do it and pay for it dearly the next day, lol. I've been sitting inside so long dreaming of all the things I want to do so when I can finally get out it's like I want to do it all at once. And no, even as I get older, I don't get any wiser and do the same dumb thing every year!


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You all are going to laugh but I am 24 I know I am still a kid but when I got pregnant my daughter hit a nerve or something and if I am out in the garden for most of the day I am pretty much crawling back in the house. It sucks badly she is 5 now and getting active and wants to play sports and I feel so bad when I tell her I can't and I even played sport all my life... I love being outside its mentally relaxing but gesh not for my back. Its not just my back its my whole lower body but the sharp pain is in my back.


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I'm glad to hear from you, Niels. THANK YOU for helping me choosing the roses hardy to my zone 5a. I'm still indecisive on Scepter d' Isle, a hybrid Musk - I'm not sure if that can take the strong wind here, or it would make good cut flower.

Many years ago Prevention Magazine reported that 80% of back-pain sufferers improved with taking a high-dose vitamin D. When I was in my 30's and NOT taking vitamin D, I had really bad backpain. Thanks to the news linking vitamin D deficiency and backpain, I took vitamin D & calcium religiously - until I neglected it this year.

Came down with severe backpain, could not even watch TV - I had to walk or lie down. I had my annual check-up, the doctor informed me that I'm deficient in vitamin D, and prescribed outrageously high vitamin D pills. After 1 month of that, no more backpain! Recently I shoveled 4 cubic yards of dirt into 6 raised beds, then mixed in 10 bags of lawn clippings from neighbors. No sore back whatseover!


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42? 42 is old? Ha! I'm 66 and for the last three weekends I've spread 80 bags of mulch. I buy by the bag because it is easier to spread than by the yard. (I know it cost much less). I'm wondering how much it would cost for Home Depot to deliver 100 more bags and unload it? I estimate that is how much more I need. (cross fingers).

So far this spring, I've weeded & fed 5 beds/borders and am still not half done. That was just in the front (and doesn't include the front slope--UGG). I've also planted a few innocuous plants and moved a few here and there. But the real killer was hauling away the tree limbs that hubby graciously pruned from the trees. All that bending and lifting...

Last summer after shoveling, packing in the auto and unloading, spreading 24 -5gal buckets of horse manure every weekend for about 6 or 8 weeks, I was down with serious pain in the back. I would have been OK except I must have stepped the wrong way while standing on the slope that is my garden.

I don't think any of us ever learn. It has to happen at least once every 5 years to remind us.

Cupshaped, you've got it easy at 42. But, this is what you have to look forward to at 66. More of the same.

Still haven't finished pruning my roses. I already have buds. I guess it won't happen this year. I'll be lucky to get them fed.

At my age, it's more like what gets done, gets done. What doesn't get done-well you know.

One-day-at-a-time Barbara


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