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justkristy 8 TX (
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Sun, Apr 8, 12 at 18:08
| Have you ever rooted a cutting and had to wait to see it bloom in order to know what rose it is? At least I will have some surprises later. |
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| lol, Kristy; I am trying to root some cuttings from some prunings earlier this spring. I looked at them yesterday and dang! I can't remember what one of them is. I guess I'll have a surprise too, if it survives. |
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| I remember thinking that I didn't need to label them because I knew which one is which. |
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| No, but I have 3 roses in pots that I have no idea what the they are. I'm letting them bloom to surprise me. |
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- Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
Sun, Apr 8, 12 at 19:21
| Oh, been there done that one! Now I carry a sharpie with me ALWAYS so I can at least scribble a name quick on the side of the pot. I hate anonymous roses. It makes me crazy until they bloom and I can ID them, lol! |
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| Oh, yeah! Every time I do it. I'll label the first cup, slip it into a flat and line the others of the same cross behind it, only labeling the next when there is a new variety. But, I always end up moving one (or more) and they don't get back where they were supposed to. Don't worry, you're "normal"! Kim |
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| OFTEN, when we have collected roses in the Fall, and did not find them in bloom. We have just given them a study name, and waited to see what they were. Jeri |
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| Anyone got a good idea of how to NOT do this? It is so frustrating. And even the repotted ones you "knew" you wouldn't forget! Grrrr! |
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- Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
Sun, Apr 8, 12 at 23:01
| Put that sharpie behind your ear before you got outside. And USE IT! (On every cup, ahem, Kim, lol!) The sharpie will write on almost anything and if it's a good pot and you don't want to wreck it just write the name on the bottom of the pot, instead of the side, where no one but you will see it. If you re-use your cups, like I do, I just cross out the old name and write the new one on. And I use a lot of codes for names to make them shorter and quicker to write. Mostly initials or the first 3 letters of one name roses. We use initials all the time in our posts and everyone already recognizes a lot of them, like DD for Double Delight, so they're easy to remember. It's worked out well. I've gotten much better about labeling since I started doing this. |
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| Was "Pur", Purple Buttons, Purple Passion, Purezza, Pure Poetry...? Too often, my shorthand needs a guide! What made sense in March is unintelligible by September. If I'm going to mark the cup, I'll just write on it with a pencil so it embosses or inscribes the name on the cup as I did with the ones I took for demonstration and give-aways to the Friends of Sequoia meeting yesterday. Sharpies wash off everything here in just a few months. #2 pencil lasts forever. Kim |
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All well and good, unless you have KATIE here.
Any pot with a tag is vulnerable, unless it's behind a fence she can't get through. Or OVER. Plant tags fascinate her. (And ONLY her. The other two ignore them.) 
I'm sorry to say, Kim, that despite my best efforts, I have pots with vigorous, unidentified, once-tagged occupants. Jeri |
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| My husband built me a misting table and I had more success than I bargained for. I was able to give some rooted cuttings away...first time ever. I am ashamed to say that toward the end of the year the "new" wore off just a little and I just got plain old lazy. I started just sticking them in any old pot I had left, sometimes mixed roses in the same pot. Sheesh! In my defense we did have some crazy hot weather last year...I wasn't thinking clearly:) |
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Mon, Apr 9, 12 at 14:18
| Have you ever rooted a cutting and had to wait to see it bloom in order to know what rose it is? Always! What a beautiful dog. |
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| I tried my hand at grafting fruit trees this year. We got scions from a class and took them home. By that point, who knows what they were. Most of the grafts took, guessing next year I will know what kind of a tree I have created going with peachynectarplum for now. |
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| I have a couple dozen right now. I think I'll know them by their blooms, and a part of me likes not knowing as I treat them all the same without favouritism, and when I lose one, I don't have to get too upset because it was "one of my favourites". However, if given the choice, I wish they had labels on them. I was just too lazy/busy/tired/distracted when I took them. I'll treat each one like a christmas present when it opens! |
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| I just moved and took all of my 50 or 60 rose bushes with me. When I went to plant them I could not remember what most of them were. So I guess I will be in for lots of surprises, and rearranging, later. |
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| It's always going to happen. A plastic label with information in #2 pencil lasts the longest. Katie can't eat it if you slide it down the inside of the pot so you have to look for it and she can't see it. Try the Cole aluminum labels on VERY prickly roses. Perhaps she'll learn that prickles in her mouth aren't worth stealing tags. When The Depression hit, The Huntington didn't feel secure in their funding, so the rose gardens (which were 'expensive') were removed and not replaced until about 1943. Clair Martin told the volunteers that he had dug many labels from that garden where identifications had been written in pencil and buried under the plants when they were reinstalled. The things had lasted over forty years under ground. I do my best to put a label inside the pot at the minimum. At best, there is one tied to the plant and one under the root ball, inside the pot where I can find it if needed. Kim |
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| Katie can't eat it if you slide it down the inside of the pot so you have to look for it and she can't see it. *** THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT! She proved me wrong. If I can see the edge of that tag, so can she. Putting them under the root ball, tho -- THAT is a good idea! Kim, I wonder if they saved those tags, or at least listed the rose names. It sure would be valuable information. Jeri |
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| No ma'am, they were tossed with the rest of the rubbish. No one ever thought they would be valuable. Perhaps there is that kind of information in the accession card file? It' probably computerized by now, but it used to be kept in a card file in the botanic library. Kim |
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| All the time! But, given that I just stick them in the ground and wait for them to grow up into mature plants, it often isn't really worth the effort of labeling them in our climate, until I actually see a bloom. Not only do they need to root, but they need to be vigorous enough to survive our winters. |
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- Posted by carlota So. Calif. z.10 (My Page) on
Tue, Apr 10, 12 at 11:21
I always "try" to keep track of my cuttings. Try rarely ever means suceed...I've found that attaching a tag to the actual cutting helps but then life happens and I always have mystery cuttings.
My mother always makes cuttings for me that she acquires from her friends houses. Since she often doesn't know what they are when she got them, they are rarely labeled. Makes for a good guessing game though! :)
Our new puppy now believes that rose cuttings, actually any of my cuttings are sticks for him to play with so I am trying to figure out a secure location for my next batch. Wish me luck!
Carlota |
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| Put them up on a table, Carlota. Dogs are like children in many ways. What you want to keep them out of has to be put out of their reach. Create some from blocks and boards so they can be moved and dismantled when not needed. Harder to do when the dogs are larger, but easier than trying to police them. Kim |
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I KNOW I need to put a label with every cutting I take, but that doesn't mean I do it. Most of my cuttings are rooted in beds, so in addition to labels I make maps--and then try not to mislay the map. If you use more than one method to identify your cuttings, you have a better chance of them staying identified. But I always have some mystery roses.
Melissa |
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| I'm fortunate that both dogs here are small, 6# and about 12# and are never allowed out back where it's wild hillside with only a hurricane fence separating it from the Mountain Park. They get let out in the walled front garden where nothing is that likely to get in and eat them. What I have to contend with are the night critters who LOVE anything with labels...hips (menus!), cuttings, seedlings, etc. so any and everything vulnerable had better be caged or suffer the consequence. Cuttings and seedlings are protected. The rest better develop quickly enough to not disappear...Kim |
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Do it all the time -- root things and then forget what it was I rooted.
I even have a standard method for dealing with it now.
I have a set of bright yellow plastic long doohickies that came from a long-abandoned toy in our household and I stick one in the pot and then I know when that plant blooms to (a) try to id it, and (b) to take some pictures for later, when I get a sudden flash of "maybe it was a ____." Kathy p.s. It's even worse for me because I also grow some plants from seed, and then it also is "maybe one of those." |
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