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Peggy Martin's original name?

Posted by MaryRebecca none (My Page) on
Wed, Apr 11, 12 at 20:20

I would like the opportunity to show Peggy Martin. Does anyone know the original name or have they shown this rose and under what name?
Thanks for the help,
MaryRebecca


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RE: Peggy Martin's original name?

I believe that Peggy Martin is the name you need to put on the tag and it is classified as a climber, but I don't have the handbook handy.

As far as I know, its original identity has not been determined.


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RE: Peggy Martin's original name?

I have 2012 Handbook for Selecting Roses by the ARS and it is not listed.

Thanks,
MaryRebecca


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RE: Peggy Martin's original name?

"Peggy Martin" is not listed in Modern Roses 12, the 2011 Official List of Approved Exhibition Names, or the 2012 Handbook for Selecting Roses. I'll ask our Chair of Judges (who is also the ARS Chair of Judges), but at this point, I don't think it can be shown in any class that requires the rose to be named.


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RE: Peggy Martin's original name?

MaryRebecca, could you send me an e-mail please (click on "My Page" next to my name)? I'll forward you the full response. In a nutshell, "Peggy Martin" is a found rose. "Found" roses must listed in an official ARS publication showing an Approved Exhibition Name (AEN) to be exhibited in classes where ARS ribbons and certificates are awarded. "Peggy Martin" has not been registered, and does not have an AEN. It cannot be shown except in a special class for "found" roses, if one is included in the show schedule. Perhaps you can encourage the person writing the show schedule to include a "found" roses class.


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RE: Peggy Martin's original name?

"The Peggy Martin Rose" (Trademarked, I think) can be shown in a Found Roses class, where that is offered.

Except in VERY rare cases, ARS will not register Study-Named roses.

Years ago, we just showed them in whatever class they fit best, but those days of wild license are gone. :-) Too bad, too. I once entered my foundling "Bud Jones" in the Victorian class, and won a blue ribbon, with Bud Jones judging. THAT was so much fun!

Jeri


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RE: Peggy Martin's original name?

Thank you everyone for the help. I will not have to worry about showing her.

MaryRebecca


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RE: Peggy Martin's original name?

Doesn't hurt to ask for a change in the show schedule! I'm pretty open to changes to ours (within reason or requests with chocolate).


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RE: Peggy Martin's original name?

Diane -- A few societies in CA do offer the class for Found Roses, and I think it is offered at National Rose Shows.

One neat thing about offering it is that one man's "found" rose is another's "Known" rose ... so some may be identified in the process. :-)

Of course, I did once show roses at the fairground, where a dear man entered his 'Mr. Lincoln' in the "Found" rose class, because he "found" it in his back yard.

Which was OK -- but he WON. YIKES!

Jeri


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RE: Peggy Martin's original name?

Jeri, LOL! We don't have a "Found Roses" class in our schedule, maybe I'll add it for this year and see what we get!


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