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jerome z9 CA (
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Wed, Apr 18, 12 at 22:50
| I really want to get this rose. I have another Delbard, Dames de Chenonceau and that rose is spectacular. When I say spectacular, I really mean one of the best I have. This makes me favorably disposed to Delbards. Do any of you grow Chartreuse de Parme, and what's it like? The photos look just incredible. |
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RE: Chartreuse de Parme
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| I don't but it is a beautiful rose!! To bad I'm in z5b :( |
RE: Chartreuse de Parme
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| I have the same question about Chartreuse de Parme - I'm going to ask SteveinAustralia in HMF who grows it (he's nice and helpful). The only reason why I don't get Young Lycidas is that I suspect Chartreuse de Parme might be better in growth habit. Question for Jerome: I'm still tempted by the $85 deal of 4 roses from David Austins (Princess Alexandra of Kent, Young Lycidas, Port Sunlight, and Teasing Georgia). Teasing Georgia likes alkaline clay, but I'm not sure about the other 3. When I observe the 25 roses own-root I got this spring, the safe-bets with my alkaline water are the ones with dark green, glossy leaves. Austin Eglantyne was a disaster last year, always pale yellow leaves, and hated my alkaline clay. |
RE: Dames de Chenonceau
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| Thank you, Jerome, for info. on Dames de Chenonceau. Previously looking up in HMF, I disregarded Dames de Chenonceau since HMF state, "mild to strong anise". I was worried that it might smell spicy like Julia Child - but I'm glad to hear from you that Dames' scent is fruity myrrh, which I like. After looking at pics. and comparing Chartreuse de Parme to Young Lycidas - Chartreuse win by far for the glossy dark green foliage and the shape of the bush. I'll bypass David Austin, and will place another order with Roses Unlimited for Dames de Chenonceau, Chartreuse de Parme, and a 3rd one (any suggestion - thanks). I have a Delbard, Nahema that's situated in open wind. Its strong stem stood up to the 40 mph wind, versus Crown Princess Magareta's octopus cane got broken. Nahema doesn't mind the spring frost a bit. I love Delbard! |
RE: Chartreuse de Parme
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| I got Chartreuse from Roses Unlimited in April of 2010. It has been a very slow grower for me, is still under two feet tall, and has not bloomed very much at all so far, I am hoping for a better production this year. The blooms I have seen were very nice, large full blooms looking just like some of the photos on HMF. The color does fade very quickly from a saturated rich hue to what is to me a rather washed out lavender, but the bloom form stays nice. |
RE: Chartreuse de Parme
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Thank you, Mossy, for that info. I was checking on Charles de Gaulle (almost thornless, mauve) and found this info. "Posted by kstrong 10 So Cal on Fri, Sep 3, 10 .. $17 (plus shipping) for a small band at Vintage. A two year old plant is also available now grafted on multiflora roots $18 (plus shipping) at Palatine now. In general, it has been my experience that lavenders and mauves have a tough time on their own roots."
The above info. explained why Chartreuse de Parme is a slow-grower. I ordered Scentsational (mauve mini-rose), it's under 3" now, very slow growing. Austin Wise Portia is a constant bloom mauve on own-root, but I accidentally crippled it this winter. Wise Portia has much smaller flower. I think the large blooms like Chartreuse need more time and fertilizer. I'm not sure if my wet, alkaline, and fertile clay soil is appropriate. Thank you, Mossy, for any info. |
RE: Chartreuse de Parme
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| I don't know what kind of soil I have at the abbey. Lots of clay in parts...I think I read somewhere it's alkaline, but I have never had it tested. Purples do well for me, both grafted and own-root: Forest Ranch Pompom; Young Lycidas (in particular!); Sweetness; Yves Piaget. The one Delbard I have, Dames de Chenonceau, planted as a small gallon last March, is growing huge and many many basal breaks. |
RE: Chartreuse de Parme
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| Thank you, Jerome, for the above info. I checked on the plant files of Judith in HMF. She's in France and praised Chartreuse de Parme. She grows the same plants as I do: Paul Neyron and Pat Austin (both do well in alkaline clay). So it looks like Chartreuse de Parme is a safe bet for clay. It's the best-seller in Australia, known for clay soil. |
RE: Chartreuse de Parme
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| Thanks Strawberryhill, that gives me hope |
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