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Question about planting

Posted by Maude80 none (My Page) on
Tue, Apr 10, 12 at 23:12

Hi everyone,

For several weeks, I have been preparing my new rose bed to plant all of my cuttings. I have added several bags of manure and dozens of banana and apple peels. It's in an area that gets all day sun. Here is my only problem. I am absolutely terrified to put these rose cuttings outside and plant them. I have been raising them for approximately a year and they have been sitting on my bedroom window and are totally protected.

What worries me is the fact that these are hybrid tea roses that were obtained from taking cuttings from florist roses. I keep wondering if I should keep them inside for another year until they are stronger (although they are pretty big right now). At what point do roses bushes develop those very think and woody cains that I see on all of my older roses. Are rose bushes ever too small to plant outside (I'm in zone 5b by the way)..

Sorry for rambling but I wan't my babies to grow into big strong grown up roses:)

Maude


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RE: Question about planting

In small pots they'll never develope those thick and woody canes. For those they need a large healthy root system. They won't get that in a small pot. Newly rooted cuttings can take a year or two or more to get established and begin to get thick canes. Keep in mind the original plants were grafted and grown in high tropical mountainous regions near the Equator where they get the most sun with cool nights that allow them to grow strong with big buds to produce those blooms. Rooted cuttings of florist roses seldom produce roses of the same deep colors and size as a florist rose.
I'd wait until mid May to plant outdoors and plan to provide protection next winter.


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Before putting them in direct sunlight outdoors, you want to harden them off by taking them outside and slowly exposing them to the direct sun. Over a two-week period, start them out on a porch or under dappled shade. Bring them into sunlight for an hour or two each day, increasing time over the days. If you see any sunburn of the leaves, return them to the shaded area for a day then start again. Make sure the soil doesn't dry out.

I'm in total agreement with Karl. They are probably getting root bound in their current pots (check to see if there are fine white roots growing out of the bottom of the pots). You can move them into larger pots (1-gallon) so that they can get a stronger root system. Large roses can take 3 - 4 years to get established. However, I have to say that I haven't had much luck with hybrid teas on their own roots, most of mine have been puny. Good luck!


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RE: Question about planting

Hi everyone,

Thanks so much for responding. Maybe it's a little silly but I kind of developed an attachment for these roses that I started from the cuttings. I also have a whole bunch on the way from roses unlimited in south carolina. It's the first time I've ever ordered roses through the mail, so I hope it goes well. Here is a picture of one of my favorite cuttings. I started this from a bouquet of roses that I purchased at Costco last July. Please excuse the very sloppy dining room:)

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Thank you, Maude


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RE: Question about planting

  • Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
    Wed, Apr 11, 12 at 11:39

Plant them! They will never grow to any size indoors, in pots. Especially pots that small. You don't say where you live so I don't know what kind of weather conditions you're having now but no matter what you have to gradually acclimate them to the outside, like Diane said, by bringing them in and out over at least about a few weeks span of time. Start out with a few hours in shade and gradually longer times in more sun until they are in full sun all day or as long as the bed they are going into gets sun. As a matter of fact you might want to make sure they are sitting in that bed by the end of the acclimation. And you want to be sure that night time temps are staying above freezing every night when you finally plant them. Normally for bought rose plants you don't need to do that but for tender rooted cuttings I'm not sure they could take a freezing night.

That is a really small pot too. You may want to pot each one up into a larger pot for the move so they can start to get bigger root balls before they go into the ground.


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RE: Question about planting

Hi,

Thanks everyone for the great advice. I thought about transplanting them into larger pots but I'm wondering if it's too late to do it now. I will probably be planting them outside towards the middle of May which is about a month away. Could one month in a larger pot really make any difference as far as their move outside goes or would it just be like a double trauma for the plant?? Also, I'm in Staten Island, NY zone 5b.

Maude


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