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No Symphony- how about Irish Hope?

Posted by hosenemesis SoCal Sunset 19 USDA (My Page) on
Sat, May 28, 11 at 2:14

Does anyone grow Irish Hope? Is it pale, pale yellow or is it buttery, like Julia Child? Would you say that it is close in color to Allux Symphony (see photo in 'How long before I get a shrub' post)?


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RE: No Symphony- how about Irish Hope?

Please look at the link below.

Here is a link that might be useful: 'Symphony' @ Heirloom


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RE: No Symphony- how about Irish Hope?

Ooooooh. Bought two. Thank you, thank you!
Renee


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RE: No Symphony- how about Irish Hope?

Hi Renee, Geez that Symphony is gorgeous. I have two Irish Hope and its no where near the color of Julia. It is kinda the color of the outer petals of Symphony. Its really gorgeous but I always have trouble with thrips, especially in the spring so mine had alot of brown due to them so didn't really take any pics of it. I hope my next flush is better. Judy


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RE: No Symphony- how about Irish Hope?

  • Posted by maryl Z7 Okla. (My Page) on
    Sun, May 29, 11 at 1:03

Symphony is an underappreciated Austin IMO. Winter Hardy, it produces a steady supple of nice medium sized blooms, mostly in clusters. Thrips don't bother it that much here (another big plus). No Austin Octopus arms for me and I've grown it for many, many years (mine is own root from Heirloom). Compact mature size, around 4-5 feet in my warm climate. Little scent. A reliable Austin that others might want to give a try, particularly if space is limited.


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RE: No Symphony- how about Irish Hope?

Thanks, Maryl. You have confirmed what others have said. I love the color and ruffled blooms of Irish Hope too. I can't wait to see your photos, Judy.
Renee


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RE: No Symphony- how about Irish Hope?

Oh you guys just had to start a thread on Symphony. I have been trying to find a source for her for years. But no one in Canada or who ships to Canada has her. I've tried Heirloom, Roses Unlimited, Roseland a couple of years ago. But no luck.

In fact this spring I just ordered a Poulsen Rose, Kronprinsesse Mary Castle which has a similar look and colour, because Symphony is beyond my reach. I was resigned to fate and happy to find a rose that I hope will have a similar look and colour.

But now this thread and Maryl's post and photo and I am once again consumed by desire. I want, I want, I want Symphony!

Since my banked desire has been rekindled, it is only fair that I post a link to a blog on Kronprinsesse Mary Castle. Don't know for certain, but if you like Symphony, you are probably going to want this one too.

There are also some wonderful photos on Help Me Find

Cheers, Rick

Here is a link that might be useful: Kronprinsesse Mary Castle


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RE: No Symphony- how about Irish Hope?

Irish Hope is outstanding. It is quite pale with slightly buttery centers, moderately fragrant. The plant is resistant to blackspot and mildew in my garden, where blackspot pressure is extreme. Foliage is very dark, the habit tall and fairly narrow. A heavy bloomer, it often produces large candelabra with individual stems long enough to cut separately if you wish. It seems widely adapted, and I've heard it does well in Southern California.


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Rick, that is one gorgeous rose. I would take that rose in a heartbeat!
Renee


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RE: No Symphony- how about Irish Hope?

  • Posted by maryl Z7 Okla. (My Page) on
    Sun, May 29, 11 at 14:32

I'm not overly familiar with Danish history, but I found it interesting that she (Mary) was from Tasmania. Not a place you hear much about these days. I can see why you want this rose and why the prince wanted Mary, she's a real beauty.


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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Sun, May 29, 11 at 19:46

It does very well, it gets very very tall.


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What a lovely story, too!

Jeri


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Allux Symphony - Happy, Happy Rose Dance

I am resurecting this post from spring 2011, because I posted on it about my search for Symphony. Talk about rose lust, Symphony has been at the top of my wish list for a decade at least. And now my search is over.

Rogue Valley Roses has been shipping to Canada for several years and they list this rose. But they have never stocked it over the past two years, til now. They restocked it a week or two ago. Yesterday I ordered two plants for April delivery. Now as long as the shipping and the border go well, Symphony will appear in my Canadian garden next year.

When I first joined the forum about a decade ago, someone used to post the tag line "Happy, happy rose dance" or HHRD when they acquired rare treasures that made them happy. I do believe that this is an occasion to resurect the concept of HHRD, I'm doing the HHRD now and will certainly be doing another when these plants arrive in spring.

Symphony will join my collection of lemon coloured roses that whiten at the edges, a colour pattern I adore. The others in the collection are: Kronprincesse Mary Castle, (link in my post below),The Pilgrim and Golden Arctic.

Cheers,

Rick

Here is a link that might be useful: Allux Symphony @ Rogers Roses


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RE: No Symphony- how about Irish Hope?

I grow both and both of them -- Symphony and Irish Hope -- are REALLY REALLY GOOD roses. But they are different. Symphony has more tightly packed blooms, tightly packed sprays of individual blooms and is a reasonably compact rose bush. Irish Hope is on steroids, and has both more loosely packed blooms and loosely packed sprays with more stem length between blooms. But both of them make enormous sprays without much prompting. Irish Hope is also a lighter shade of yellow than Symphony.

Both are healthy, hearty, lusty roses and I recommend both of them to folks quite often.


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