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Posted by
JessicaBe 5-6 Central Ohio (
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Fri, May 25, 12 at 19:24
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RE: Species Rose?
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| What a lovely rose! Probably not a species, but definitely an old rose. Does it only bloom once in the Spring, or does it re-bloom in the Summer or Fall? Jackie |
RE: Species Rose?
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| Honestly I don't know I just noticed it and I have lived here for 5 years :S and drive up and down the alley every day lol It just started blooming so thats why i noticed it. It is a very charming little rose! The house is up for sale so I am going to try to get cuttings of it here very soon before the house sells... |
RE: Species Rose?
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| It could be Dorothy Perkins. Kim |
Here is a link that might be useful: Dorothy Perkins
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| It really looks like it but somethings off.. |
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| ok kim you are amazing! I looked closer at the photos on HMF and I think that is the one! |
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| Dorothy Perkins was my thought -- tho this is darker than I have seen it. I'd like to know if anyone who grows 'Dorothy Perkins' can match those very very elaborate stipules. Jeri |
RE: Species Rose?
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| Whatever it is, it's got mildew really bad. Do you really want a rose that mildews like that? |
RE: Species Rose?
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| Thanks, Jessica. The mildew is a dead give away. Peter Beales wrote of Dorothy back in the 1980s, "Dorothy Perkins mildewed her way around the world." As for the fringed stipules, though a strong characteristic of multiflora, wichurana hybrids can also express them. Kim |
RE: Species Rose?
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| Dorothy Perkins. I was just wondering yesterday, looking at the various locations where unattended DPs are draping from treetops and crawling through fields, how this rose became so widespread and feral. I know one place not far from me where all three 'versions' of this rose grow on two sides of a country intersection ... pink on one side, red and white on the other. |
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| I disagree: the foliage is not glossy enough to be 'Dorothy Perkins'. I suspect it is one of the other R. multiflora hybrids. |
RE: Species Rose?
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| Thanks everyone, still stumped about this, the majority vote is DP... but... |
RE: Species Rose?
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| Funny this posting. I had just read it yest morning. Later, on my way up to a friend's just out of town, I spied this huge pink rose rambling on the side of the road. I pulled over and sure enough, DP, complete with mildew. But it was gorgeous, tangling over and thru the underbrush for a good 25-30 feet. |
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| A similar rose that mildews even worse than DP is Excelsa, which would explain the darker color report. Either is very easy to root, which is a major reason why they are so widespread. |
RE: Species Rose?
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| It is undoubtedly a R. multiflora hybrid (Kim, I'm surprised you didn't catch this), which typically have less than glossy foliage. (the dry foliage I see in your first photos clearly show semi-matte foliage; not glossy at all) 'Dorothy Perkins' has very glossy foliage (well, the foliage that isn't matte from Mildew!) and the leaflets are of a different shape. Side by side, multiflora hybrids are quite distinct from the wichurana hybrids (as in DP). I'm not sure what that plant is, but it ain't DP. I suspect you will land on the same conclusion in time. |
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RE: Species Rose?
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| I second the vote for Excelsa. The foilage doesn't match Dorothy Perkins. |
RE: Species Rose?
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The bloom almost looks like my Seven sisters, except, Seven Sisters blooms in large clusters.
Seven Sisters is a hybrid multiflora. |
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