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| Hi there. This is my 3rd year owning a climbing rose that I got as a gift so I'm not sure the variety.
This year I noticed that where all the flower buds cluster together, there is fine webbing. it's not on the stalks or leaves, just where the cluster of buds are. In the webbing is small black long things. Either feces or eggs. They are not round, but elongated. I've searched the leaves for damage or bugs and couldn't find any. i looked on Google for how to identify spider mites or thrips but wasn't successful in finding something that matched the description of what's on my rose buds so I'm hoping someone here can help me. I'd hate to use rose dust when i should be using miticide or vice versa... |
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| Thrips have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with webs. It's a bit unusual, but not unheard of, to have spider mites develop at the buds instead of on the leaves near the ground. Still, you haven't mentioned any damage, per se. If they are spider mites, you will notice ill effects that continue to increase on the roses - leaves stippling, turning brown, and dying, etc., etc. If there's webbing, but you don't notice any ill effects to the rose, leave it alone. Regular spiders (not mites) are good things where roses are concerned. They don't touch the rose, but they trap and eat all the things that do. |
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- Posted by trillium15 z5a Ontario (My Page) on Fri, Jun 1, 12 at 8:56
| Thanks. If I spray with miticide on one area, and it's spiders, will that kill the spiders as well? I don't want to wait til the rose is completely destroyed before taking action. Also, I'm concerned it's NOT spiders because of the excrement I see in the webbing. That's not something I've ever seen on spider webs before... |
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| Don't spray if you con't have a problem. Just keep observing. Tom's comments are good. You won't often observe webbing from spider mites on outdoor roses, anyway, except for little tufts on the underside of leaves. |
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| Occasionally I see this on my roses as well, not sure what this is. If I see this on a newly planted rose, I might loosen it with a hand fork or spray with water to loosen it a bit. I don't think this webbing will do serious damage to the rose plant itself. I wouldn't recommend using any miticides or insecticides, better to let Nature and predators take care of it. |
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- Posted by the_morden_man (Z4-Z5) Newmarket, O (My Page) on Thu, Apr 25, 13 at 9:11
| This is caused by a type of sawfly larvae. They are little worm like caterpillars that eat into the forming buds and surrounding leaves and create little webbed nests attaching the bud and leaves together. When they start getting older, you will see more evident black spots that almost look like coffee grounds on the leaves and in the webbing. This is their feces. If you pull the webbing apart and expose the bud, you will see the small larvae which are usually green in colour and can be quite small at first. There are sometimes 2 or 3 in the little webbed area. Some roses seem particularly susceptible to this type of Sawfly and others are rarely touched. William Baffin is one rose here that they absolutely adore and routinely attack in large numbers. No need to spray or dust as it will have limited effectiveness. Just pick them out of the cocoon and step on them, or use your finger and thumb and gently squish them around the bud and leaves. |
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