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Favorite, WS2000 died. Please help determine why

Posted by mnkitty none (My Page) on
Thu, May 24, 12 at 21:52

My favorite rose was WS2000. It was a good sized grafted rose when I got it and bloomed really well the 1st year. Then I moved it.

It bloomed some but barely grew for 2 years. I'm wondering if I killed it by my methods of winter protection, or if it was the early, continual freeze-thaw that did it?

I really wanted to protect it, so I did the MN tip, I think 3 winters. I wonder if I separated it from the graft, or the many freeze-thaw cycles we had this Spring could have killed it? When I dug it up this Spring the canes were green but gradually shriveled and died.

Kitty


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RE: Favorite, WS2000 died. Please help determine why

  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Fri, May 25, 12 at 10:21

What did the root system look like? It may simply have had its roots disturbed once to often.

Are you in MN? Winter is tough on most modern hybrid roses.

Sorry for your loss, WS2K is a beauty.


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RE: Favorite, WS2000 died. Please help determine why

Well, it wasn't in two pieces, but it looked like gray, cracked bark.

Yes, I'm in MN, zone 4. I had several Austins survive last winter with little to no winter protection. I, also, had some HTs and floribundas that I didn't tip because I'm getting tired of it. I decided to let them die. Surprisingly, 2 survived and one is blooming.

Thanks for your sympathy. I'm trying to decide if I should try another one own-root.
Kitty


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RE: Favorite, WS2000 died. Please help determine why

Kitty, I've never tipped roses, so I'm not personally familiar with this technique, however, I think, it's possible that the tipping and transplanting might have stressed it.

Austins are hardier than Hybrid Teas and appropriate for a cold zone, in my experience. I would go with a grafted WS 2000 over an own root plant, and not tip it, just mound some mulch over the base for winter.

On grafted roses: I have found that if dormant roses are planted in late May, they can struggle to get established. (However you're in a different zone than me...)

If there's any possibility about weather being too warm in your area in late May, I would recommend planting the dormant rose next spring.

I would plant an Austin red where it gets all day sun; some of the Austin pinks will tolerate some shade, but I think the reds are not as tolerant of shade.


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RE: Favorite, WS2000 died. Please help determine why

And if you plant a GRAFTED Shakespeare 2000, make sure that graft is buried 4-6 inches down--to protect the graft from your ferocious winters.

Good luck.

Kate


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RE: Favorite, WS2000 died. Please help determine why

Hi Krista,
You're right; it's too late to do a grafted rose. There is a place that has it own root,though. Do you think it could catch up, in size, to a grafted rose?

Thank you, Kate. Yes, the winters here are usually ferocious. The funny thing is, this last winter was like a zone or 2 warmer, and I've had more troubles than ever. Must be just coincidence.
Kitty


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RE: Favorite, WS2000 died. Please help determine why

Kitty, yes, I think so. The own root might take more time to get established, and with a smaller root system might not establish as easily, however if it does get established I think it would be OK. I would go with a one gallon own root over a band.


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RE: Favorite, WS2000 died. Please help determine why

I tried an own root WS2K a few years ago and it died the first winter. I bought some own root roses on sale one June and only half survived the winter. One year I bought an own root 2 gallon Baronne Prevost from the local nursery in October (I think it snowed the next day) and it survived the winter. I would say that if you buy any more roses now, they should be very hardy varieties. Otherwise wait until next spring.


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