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Thomas Affleck

Posted by jim1961 6a Central Pa. (My Page) on
Thu, May 8, 14 at 23:57

Ordered a Thomas Affleck rose hoping it would do well with blackspot around here. But when I opened the box after it arrived today it was full of BS. Gee hope that isn't a bad

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RE: Thomas Affleck

It would not be a bad sign to me. I do not spray ever. Sometimes roses that are pretty resistant to black spot, get it due to circumstances. Thomas Affleck is great for me. I would not worry about the black spot, but possibly would call the vendor to ask what made that happen.

When you purchase from a certain vendor regularly, I think it is good to maintain contact with them. You can learn a lot when you ask those relevant questions.

If you do call the vendor, I hope you share the information with us.


RE: Thomas Affleck

Thomas is an excellent rosebush...i bought two in Texas, put them in big pots, moved them to the mountains of NC the following year. They have survived in the pots through a really bad winter and are starting to bloom. I don't recall any blackspot episodes, and i have lots of it here! Your blackspot problem may have been a shipping issue...too warm and damp in transit?

RE: Thomas Affleck

I just planted Thomas Affleck to see how he does here. Thinking about it Thomas probably did get BS during shipment. I sent a clean rose bush to Kansas from Pa once and it arrived with BS...

RE: Thomas Affleck

By the way thanks you two for the encouragement. I have always read Thomas is a good rose and that's why I bought it to try... :)
I'll update on Thomas later toward fall...

RE: Thomas Affleck

When I recieved Thomas Affleck in the mail half the leaves had BS on them. I left them on to feed the plant since it was a new rose...
Since then the rose bush has dropped all the BS leaves and many new nice looking leaves have taken there place.
Thomas Affleck is clean and has very healthy looking leaves right now! :-)
I will update at the end of the year...

This pic was taken 7 days after I planted TA... May 15th 2014

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This pic was taken today... June 8th 2014

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This post was edited by jim1961 on Sun, Jun 8, 14 at 15:22

RE: Thomas Affleck

  • Posted by jim1961 6a Central Pa. (My Page) on
    Tue, Jun 10, 14 at 17:45

Sorry taking so long to get back Sammy...

I wrote to company that I got Thomas Affleck off of and below is there response...

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"Dear James,

Roses in shipping boxes are prone to this. Roses are naturally deciduous and readily drop there leaves in the stress of shipping. Blackspot is an opportunistic pest that takes advantage of this environment.

Roses should continue to thrive now.

Thanks, Mike"
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Thomas Affleck is doing real well now with flawless leaves and getting ready to bloom for the first time since I planted him on May 8th... TA has about 8 flower buds at the present time.

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This post was edited by jim1961 on Tue, Jun 10, 14 at 19:44

RE: Thomas Affleck

  • Posted by jim1961 6a Central Pa. (My Page) on
    Thu, Jun 12, 14 at 21:16

First Thomas Affleck bloom since I planted TA...
It rained really hard last night so had to hold up the bloom to take a

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RE: Thomas Affleck

  • Posted by jim1961 6a Central Pa. (My Page) on
    Mon, Jun 23, 14 at 11:00

TA has been showing some signs of powdery mildew...
Hopefully he outgrows that problem.
This TA gets about 9+ hours of sun per day.
TA planted May 8th 2014 is blooming away at the present time...

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RE: Thomas Affleck

  • Posted by jim1961 6a Central Pa. (My Page) on
    Mon, Jun 30, 14 at 21:33

TA still battling some PM and also has BS spreading a bit again but still doing ok overall... Only time will tell how well it does in our no spray garden...
Blooms last approx 72+ hours on the bush...
Hotter days probably less...

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This post was edited by jim1961 on Tue, Jul 1, 14 at 19:04

RE: Thomas Affleck

Just updating this thread so I can keep track on how this rose does and I will have all the details and pics in one place so I can find them easily.
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July 8, 2014

TA still has touches of PM here and there...

Blackspot has continued spreading throughout the bush again. I notice some leaf drop so far but not much.

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RE: Thomas Affleck

Jim, I think I would be appalled if I had opened a box from a grower which contained a rose with BS. I would feel they had sent me a bad plant! Good to know. Your TA looks wonderful in spite of his shaky start. I see he is planted away from other roses so his situation did not affect any others. I use my camera a lot also especially to learn what or how time affects results.

RE: Thomas Affleck

  • Posted by jim1961 6a Central Pa. (My Page) on
    Sat, Jul 12, 14 at 16:37

That's actually the first rose I've ever gotten that had BS when it arrived here JohnnyCabot.

Just updating: Thomas Affleck still has BS spreading a bit BUT only minor leaf drop so far. Just some minor touches of PM also. TA starting to get some new growth which will be setting more buds here soon...

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RE: Thomas Affleck

Give it another year, and I'll bet TA will be one tough rose fighting off disease and blooming well!

Myself, I pluck off the leaves with blackspot on them when they start turning yellow or if a green one gets a particularly heavy attack of BS. Looks neater and less chance for the BS to spread itself around that way.


RE: Thomas Affleck

  • Posted by jim1961 6a Central Pa. (My Page) on
    Sun, Jul 13, 14 at 13:54

I hope so Kate! Thanks! Time will tell...

RE: Thomas Affleck

  • Posted by jim1961 6a Central Pa. (My Page) on
    Fri, Jul 25, 14 at 11:45

I am not pulling Blackspot infected leaves off the bush or doing any type of cleanup and no spraying of any type.
I like to see just how resistant a rose is without much fussing...

July 25, 2014

Thomas Affleck still fighting off Blackspot and PM. Both diseases are getting worse and more and more leaf drop is occuring.


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OVERALL: From a few feet away the bush still looks good...

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This post was edited by jim1961 on Fri, Jul 25, 14 at 11:54

RE: Thomas Affleck

  • Posted by jim1961 6a Central Pa. (My Page) on
    Mon, Jul 28, 14 at 19:51

Thomas Affleck loading up with flower buds and should bloom soon... (Second flush since I planted.)

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Thomas Affleck appears to not like our climate very much...
But like others have mentioned it may do better next year after it throws out some larger roots.

Still fighting Blackspot and Powdery Mildew problems here in latter July. I did clean up fallen BS leaves from under TA on July 26th 2014...
We been having some cooler days and nights lately.
Couple nights dropped into the upper 40's here in July.
We have had decent amounts of rain through July also.
This year is a good test for roses to see how resistant they are from fungal diseases...Because rose leaves are constantly went from either rain or our heavy dews...

Thomas Affleck was bred more for Texas so I'm thinking it may just be a bit too wet for him here in our region...
But we will see...

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RE: Thomas Affleck

Jim -- I went to the Peggy Rockefeller Rose Garden in the Bronx two weeks ago. Most of the roses have few or no blooms on them, and TA is an exception. The garden is non-spray. TA seems happy and healthy there. I think you got a great rose.

RE: Thomas Affleck

  • Posted by jim1961 6a Central Pa. (My Page) on
    Wed, Jul 30, 14 at 13:17

First bloom of Thomas Afflecks second flush...

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RE: Thomas Affleck

Your TA is so pretty, I hope it outgrows it's BS and PM for you. I live in a very humid area of Texas so I wonder how he would do for me with BS. Almost all of my roses get a touch of BS at some point, some worse than others. I used to spray but found it really didn't work for me so I have had a no spray garden for a few years. I usually keep the BS leaves picked off as best I can and try to keep it clean under the rose and let it run it's course. I may have to try TA one day. I have enjoyed your thread an watching him grow.

RE: Thomas Affleck

Hey Jim,

I cab't respond to the message you sent because your GW email is blocked.


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