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| I found a healthy one finally. At least it looks like it to my inexperienced eye. Aside from weeding is there anything else I need to do for it? I also have a general question... How far around the base should I keep clear of other plants. There are some lilies and hostas in this bed (my mom came over and id these for me, unfortunately her knowledge is limited) In general the entire yard and flower beds are HORRIBLY overgrown. I'he never had any type of garden before and I'm having a tough time deciding where to start. Also I can't tell what's a weed and what's not when the shoots are first starting. Is there any website or book someone can recommend to help me get the basics down? |
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- Posted by floridarosez9 10 (My Page) on Sat, Jun 23, 12 at 11:00
| My DH's theory is if they are hard to pull up they are weeds. If they come up easily, he shouldn't have pulled them up (obviously, he's not a gardener). And, you know, that is often true. |
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| It's so pretty! I can't wait to see what it turns into. Side not does anyone know what the darker 2 leaf things in the background are? Someone said they might be lilies? |
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| lol so just trial and error? I want to move alot of the stuff is that something that should be done in the spring or can i do it this fall. Someone said it's not good to do it during the summer. Is that true?- |
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| 1. The rose--you have two green healthy canes. I would cut out all the old brown canes and rotting stubs. This should cause more new canes to emerge from the crown. Rose canes can wear out when they are more than 4 years old. 2. Transplanting perennials: transplanting disturbs the roots, reduces water uptake, and leads to temporary wilting or, in extreme cases, death. Direct sunlight and low humidity increase the rate of moisture loss through the leaves of transplants. Giving shade or reducing the leaf area will reduce the moisture loss. Cool, cloudy weather is ideal for transplanting. Ease of transplanting depends also on the root system. Plants with a mass of fibrous roots transplant easily, because you can pick up a solid plug of soil and roots; those with taproots or coarse roots are harder to transplant. 3. Telling weeds from garden plants: (a) get an experienced gardener to help. She will know the common weeds in your region and will recognize some of the garden plants (b) patrol the garden once a week. Whenever a plant produces an unattractive weedy flower, pull it up. |
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| Good for you to have so many new roses and plants to play with, and glad you found a healthy one! As far as telling one plant from another: I have done my share of digging it up, that is for sure. I dug up a whole bed filled with perennials to eradicate it, basically rinsing root systems of other plants off and removing every last piece of the plant, roots, rhizomes and all. It was even growing rhizomes through the center of decaying roots from the tree that came down in the middle of the bed, several feet away from the main infestation. It was hard but worth it, and I was able to save everything I had to dig up. Some stuff sat in boxes as I dug the rest of the bed, but survived to be replanted. Yeah, I am not a fan of goutweed. I was able to get rid of it though. I still cruise the suspect areas each spring just to make sure it does not rear it's head. If you move plants around, I would really try and not spread the goutweed unless you really, really know you want it around. Here are a couple links to help you make your decision: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegopodium_podagraria http://www.fs.fed.us/database/feis/plants/forb/aegpod/all.html |
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| I think I see some Pulmonaria in that first photo, too! It is the larger variegated leaf that looks like it has light colored polka dots. I love it and really want to get some but still have not done so. I had the tiniest piece that hitched a ride from my parents garden to mine last year but it did not make it thru the winter apparently. :( I think it can be very attractive both the blooms and the foliage, grows well around here. In my opinion, that would be worth saving! Lucky you to have it! You are going to find all sorts of great stuff out there, I am sure!! |
Here is a link that might be useful: Google images of Pulmonaria
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| I am not sure where you are located, but the two leaved things might be lily of the valley, perhaps? These are a sure sign of spring when they flower. I think they can be very pretty, too. Some think they can be weedy, but a weed is just a plant growing where you don't want it. I think they are pretty, as opposed to the goutweed, for example!! I'd pretty much spend the season observing everything. If you want to get your gardening jones on, plant some annuals for color. That way you can enjoy some new plants and see what is going on out there already as the seasons change. As things grow, mark plant with sticks or whatever markers you can. I use rings of small stones and pebbles for bulbs and stuff, take notes with corresponding pictures as things grow and flower. Come spring you will have markers and places marked to know where things are you may wish to move, and even perimeters to know how far to around to dig if lifting crowns of plants and such. It will be helpful to be able to refer to your pictures, notes and markers, and much easier to move the plants as they are breaking dormancy than now. Plus, you have a whole winter to plot and conspire where everything should go, lots of charts and graphs to keep you busy all winter! That is what I do in the "off season"! I am sure if you post other pictures around the forums as well as here, others will be able to help you identify some of what you have. Wander garden centers in your area, too, and see if you can match some of you plants that way. Local nurseries can be helpful with identifying things, take in a sprig of the unknown and often you can come out knowing exactly what it is. (That is how I identified my goutweed by the way. They just looked at my plastic baggie in horror and said "Where did you get THAT!" LOL!) |
Here is a link that might be useful: lilly of the valley images
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| Looks to me like the 2 leafed plant is a hydrangea. |
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| I think it's a hydrangea, too. Nice size plant. This one is worth watching. One of my favorites |
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- Posted by hosenemesis SoCal Sunset 19 USDA (My Page) on Sat, Jun 23, 12 at 22:48
| The large plant behind the rose in the second photo is a hydrangea. I don't know what the little guys with the two leaves are, but lily of the valley is a good guess. Do you have a local garden club- a rose club or an iris society, maybe? You could join and get some of the members to come over and give you a lesson on weeds. Renee |
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| I see a hydrangea, goutweed, pulmonaria, hosta and lily of the valley. This is fun! Got any more garden beds for us to ID? I agree with Merlcat on pulling the goutweed. I'd pull the lily of the valley too. |
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| oh i've got plenty more i'll go take some pics and post them later today. |
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| oh i've got plenty more i'll go take some pics and post them later today. |
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