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| Butterscotch as grown in my yard has a tan overall look but with more than just a hint of yellow. It is a very pretty rose and a favorite of mine. It is suppose to be a climber with scent, but mine is a small bush, so far, and I can not smell any odor. The color reminds me more of well-laundered-khakis or a soft old-gold, than butterscotch.
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| Beautiful James! I'm glad you grow and enjoy this rose. I bought it bare root when it came out about 1985 and for a long time, it wasn't to be found anywhere. Definitely one worth keeping available! Thanks. Kim |
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- Posted by karl_bapst_rosenut 5a, NW Indiana (rosenut@rosenut.com) on Fri, Jun 15, 12 at 13:44
| Fragrance, not odor! Roses are fragrant, they don't have an odor nor do they smell. A nose smells and sweaty under arms have an odor. My Butterscotch blooms look like butterscotch pudding. The color varies according to where it's grown. |
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- Posted by James_Shaw none (My Page) on Fri, Jun 15, 12 at 14:51
| Was it really necessary to put me down Karl? Good manners are important to me. To rub a fellow forum members nose in it when pointing out an error, seems counter-productive to me. |
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| Right on, James, that was hardly necessary. And as one who respects the elasticity of our language, I see no reason to place limits on the term 'odor'. It's one of those very useful neutral nouns . . . How often have we heard someone enthuse about the "odor of freshly baked bread"? That conveys something infinitely more pleasant that sweaty armpits, although no one would deny that the latter certainly has an odor. Incidentally, "smell" functions as both a noun and a verb. Noses do smell, as Karl was quick to point out. Roses on the other hand, have a smell (n), and because they emit an odor, they also smell (v). Fragrance is, after all, an odor. So -- smell, odor, fragrance, aroma, bouquet, perfume, redolent/redolence . . . we get the picture. And then there are folk, believe it or not, who actually find roses to be as unpleasantly odoriferous as your armpit example. Try telling them that roses don't have an odor. |
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| Stuff your nose in a bloom of R. Fedtschenkoana with its Foetida-type, linseed smell. Most who have, agreed it is more of an "odor" than "scent". Kim |
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| James -- I got carried away and neglected to congratulate you on that spectacular photograph. I hope your climber will develop an odor over time, and that it will smell wonderful! My greatest regret as a gardener is that I can't accommodate more climbers. If I could, 'Butterscotch' would be on my short list. |
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| My Butterscotch is a climber, and I think it was known as Jactan?? Not sure. It is beautiful this year. I think I have had it again (not sure) for about 10 yr. or so. It had to be moved and over course was dozed and left sit roots exposed for over 24 hr. until I spotted it. Had 2..put it in a very good hole full of water and kept it watered well for at least 2 weeks and added alfalfa pellets to it. The one is coming along beautifully and blooming HUGE blooms. The other one is growing beautiful new canes, but still not sure whether it is coming up from Dr. Huey..(the foliage on that one is looking a little suspicious) It is planted on a slope so praying it has gone own-root. Your blooms look just like mine. I had to prune it pretty good after first flush here (before move). It smells great! I am so happy happy it is back. |
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| I LOVE Fragrant Cloud, but honestly, I think it has more of an odor than a fragrance. Definitely an acquired taste (pun on fragrance and odor!) I doubt, despite the exclam point, that Karl meant anything personal by his comments. Too easy on forums to get insulted, and it doesn't do anyone any good. Just makes participating annoying rather than fun and educational. Pretty photo. But I sure have grown to prefer roses with odor or fragrance, or that can break out on song on command. |
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| Horses sweat, men perspire, and women glow. Per my sainted and long dead grandmother. It's all sweat, however you choose to name it. Connotations aside, they are all words to try to describe a smell - fragrance/aroma/scent/odor/smell/stench. A rose by any other name, - - - - |
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| It was 100 degrees today, and I glowed A LOT! |
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| Its such a beautiful rose. I wish mine had lived long enough to become established. I'll have to try it again some time. Thanks for reminding me of yet another rose that deserves a second chance :) Tammy |
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| I have one in a pot that I got as a band in March. It's getting ready with it's first bloom right now. Thanks for the gorgeous preview. |
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- Posted by nummykitchen Z5b Michigan (My Page) on Mon, Jun 18, 12 at 20:54
| Gorgeous rose, James! Love the coloring. Being new to roses this year I've never even heard of Butterscotch and really like it! I'm adding it to my 'want' list right now :) |
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- Posted by sverigegrabb 9b (My Page) on Fri, Jun 22, 12 at 15:03
| I adored my 3 JACtans. Unfortunately, I gave them to my garden assistant (along with all my other roses when I moved.) Has anyone got an idea where they're sold? I find fewer and fewer nurseries nowadays. |
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