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Sat, Jun 16, 12 at 14:49
| OK here we go again looking for a different rose than what I have. I have the rose EBB TIDE (purple). Looking for a purple or lavender that looks like the rose Barbara Streisand. Would like to purchase that one or a shade darker but everywhere I look is unavailable at this time. What's your favorite purple or lavender rose? I'm in zone 6 in Louisville KY. Thanks. for your help. Pembroke |
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- Posted by mike_rivers (My Page) on Sat, Jun 16, 12 at 15:24
| Did you check Roses Unlimited for Barbera Streisand? They list her and they ship all season. |
Here is a link that might be useful: roses unlimited
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| I hope Stinky Babs will have significantly greater black spot resistance where you are than she does here in Southern California. I love Tom Carruth roses, but this one was definitely selected for the scent and color instead of good plant beneath the blooms. Makes sense. That name will either sell the rose or keep people away from it. A more "neutral", more commercially successful name is much more likely to be attached to a decent plant with a nice flower. Here, Neptune is a much healthier, more productive rose and a good example of what I mean by a "neutral, commercially successful name". Those named for politicians and celebrities will tend to be not quite as good plants as those possessing more universally acceptable, less polarizing names. Those names will continue selling plants long after the popularity of the celebrity wanes, and are far less likely to hit the resistance against the celebrity. A few years ago, J&P put out the rose Billy Graham. Where I worked and offered it, no one would touch it because of for whom it was named, even though in that climate, it performed very well. Why take a plant which is likely to be a great seller because it performs well across the country and hamstring it with a polarizing name? Conversely, giving a plant which would likely earn a deserved, bad reputation a name like Barbra Streisand, where her "fans" will grow it because of the name, can easily earn more sales for it simply because of the name. Kim |
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| I confess to not knowing Ms Streisand (the rose) but I suspect that my ideas of perfect purples are not going to be similar at all. Weirdly, although I am usually predjudiced in favour of singles and semi-doubles (MUST see stamens), I do have many petalled roses in all colours except for lavender mauve. Years ago, I used to have BLue Moon, a rose which conforms to the classical idea of a high-centred HT but I absolutely detested the colour....and yet, show me a little purple poly or a single lilac and I am lost. So, ranging from the singles such as the ethereal Lagoon, Lilac Charm and my new Odyssey, to slightly more petalled Veilchenblau, Violette, Mr Bluebird, Baby Faurax, and a new fave, Sibelius, there are plenty to select....but all these tend to have a much more informal and even slightly wild look to them which most suits the lilac and purple colours. But that's just me. I would expect Roseseek, the ur-fan of purples to chime in with a recommendation. |
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| Here's one for you, Campanula ... And it's a UK rose, to boot. 'Purple Skyliner' -- new to me, purple as purple can be, in my cool climate, and said to bloom right through the year. A gift to us, from a friend who knows we love poiples. :-) Jeri |
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- Posted by Kippy-the-Hippy 10 Sunset 24 (My Page) on Sat, Jun 16, 12 at 15:58
| that is so pretty Jeri! Mom loves purples! Any guesses who has them? |
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| In the U.S., I only know Vintage Gardens has it as a "custom rooted" plant. Kim may have other suggestions. As I said, mine was a gift . . . But it looks like a rose with a future, or so I think. Jeri |
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- Posted by flaurabunda 6a, Central IL (My Page) on Sat, Jun 16, 12 at 18:47
| Paradise is doing fantastic here in our zone 6a, with conditions similar to Kentucky. Massive, and I mean MASSIVE rose with no disease so far this year. I don't think I saw much, if any, spotting last year either. Neptune is beautiful, but it's a tad spotty this season and was horribly infested last year. |
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| As I find no evidence it is patented, and, if it is like most of the other Euro Desert roses Vintage received then sent to Heirloom, they probably won't have it. From several emails I've received from folks who reported back when I suggested they contact Heirloom for Cliff's roses, it doesn't appear they are releasing anything from that purchase, so I'd say sharing cuttings shouldn't be an issue. It IS a multiflora hybrid and as such, roots extremely easily. Kim |
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| thanks. I'll check those mentioned. Any more will be appreciated. Pembroke |
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| I grow a lot of lavender or purple roses. It is one of my favorite colors. Some other to choose from are Angle Face, Blue Ribbon, Blue Girl,(Blue Boy, Blue Nile, Blue Heaven, - just type in 'blue' in HMFR) Magenta, Paradise, Sterling Silver, Heirloom, Purple Passion, Rhapsody in Blue. Clare |
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| Here is a list of the purples/lavendars I have. Please understand - my scenario is hot, dry, california weather - in sandy soil. Twilight Zone Angel Face Barbara Streisand Blue Girl Paradise Blueberry Hill
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| Oh my, I forgot one of my newest, yet favorites - Stainless Steel. It is VERY light lavendar, hinting on light grayish. But the blooms are huge, form is superb, and fragrance is wonderful. |
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- Posted by flaurabunda 6a, Central IL (My Page) on Sat, Jun 16, 12 at 22:24
| Harmony and I are having similar problems with Blue Girl. She sure is super when she decides to stop being so fussy and just bloom. My Paradise starts as a steely lavender and then changes with sun exposure to magenta. Paradise Found is mostly magenta but does have a much stronger fragrance. Angel Face is very attractive but around here she spots so badly that she's referred to as Angel Farce. I have a new Night Owl this year, a single purple climber, and and so far I am very impressed. |
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| I am in Louisville also., in the Lake Forest area.I grow Blueberry Hill, Paradise, and Sweetness with great success. I don`t know if they have the form that you are looking for, but the color is similar. I find that this color is a challenge in my garden. Good luck with your selections. Lesley |
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| Heirloom is my best purple, followed by Angel Face thn Melody Perfume. Heirloom is a bloom machine in my garden. |
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| I second Twilight Zone as an Ebb Tide improvement. So far, it's staying a very dark purple in a southern exposure during hot, dry weather (versus the faded three Ebb Tides I have). Others I like very much are The Prince, a red purple in my climate; Ascot, another red purple; the ethereal Blue Bayou, a pale silvery blue lavender; the very vigorous bloom machine, Blueberry Hill; the brighter magenta purple, Big Purple; ruffly Angel Face; and Heirloom, which looks like it will be a vigorous winner. Love those purples. Diane |
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| I love the purple and lavenders, too. Both Purple Skyliner and Excellenz Von Schubert are absolute favourites, though sadly not widely available, even here in Europe! Kim, did I understand correctly, that PS is easy to root? Can I just bury a portion of a cane in good soil do you think, to get it to root? What about Excellenz? bart |
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| When I reduced my HT collection, Heirloom was the purple I kept. Its hardy and vigorous here and produces a lot of blooms. I have sp'd Love Potion, Barbara Streisand, Angel Face, Simply Marvelous and others.
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- Posted by kentucky_rose Z6 KY (My Page) on Sun, Jun 17, 12 at 9:39
| I live in Lexington and would recommend Neptune as a replacement for Barbara Striesand. Wilson's Nursery in Frankfort had some yesterday. Neptune has a beautiful bloom, very fragrant, and nice, strong stems. It can stand alone. I have 2 Sweetness, which I love and wouldn't want to be without. It's a producer, very fragrant, blooms last, but the stems are skinny, looks great in the garden or with others in a vase. It is not a stand alone rose. Paradise is a great rose for me, but no fragrance! The lighter lavenders that I have are Blue Girl and Stainless Steel. Both are very fragrant. However, when I see Neptune, the rose's beauty almost takes my breath away. So far, Neptune is not a big producer, 3rd season. |
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| I can attest that Purple Skyliner roots easily. And quickly! Jeri |
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| Yes, Bart, you should be able to either layer PS or EvS fairly easily. Both are extremely multiflora in character, and that species is well known (infamous?) for rooting everywhere it hits soil. You may try layering if your mulch remains damp to encourage roots to form, or wait until winter and strike hard wood cuttings which should callus and root rather easily. I know the wrapping method works very well with both of them using hard wood cuttings over winter. I think you should find both easy enough to succeed using just about any method you care to try. They really are easier to root compared to some of the really resistant ones like many Teas. Kim |
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| oh yep, PS is a beauty with a growing fanbase. It has the same depth of colour Rhapsody in Blue with a much more graceful and pliable manner of growth. Mmmm, Night Owl - just coming in to Europe and definately on my interest list. We are frequently sick with envy over some US roses - would Night Owl be a Carruth rose? Checking out Blueberry Hill right now. |
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| Oh, yes, Night Owl and Blueberry Hill are both Tom Carruth roses. He hit upon a wonderful breeding line which helped him create some marvelous roses. His knack for finding just the right niche to fill, combined with his great talent and a healthy dose of luck resulted in some of the neatest American roses in many years. Good guy, too! Kim |
Here is a link that might be useful: Tom Carruth roses on HMF
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- Posted by lavender_lass WA zone 4 (My Page) on Sun, Jun 17, 12 at 16:38
| Purple or purplish...Bleu Magenta, Veilchenblau, Belle de Crecy, Intrigue, Ebb Tide, Jenny Duvall and Angel Face. There are more purple gallicas, but I haven't tried them, as well as Reine de Violettes and a few others. |
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- Posted by kstrong 10 So Cal (kathystrong@gmail.com) on Sun, Jun 17, 12 at 18:56
| Well, I have poipel skyliner, and there is just enough time left for me to get it rooted and into the rare rose auction for next November -- that auction is held by my rose society, Cal Coastal RS, every year about then. Hope to see anyone wanting that rose come on through. . . . Any other requests? I also have one called Perennial Blue that is actually very similar but MORE floriferous, at least where I am. Kathy |
Here is a link that might be useful: Auction website (2011 version)
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| I've been looking for Charles de Gaulle and wonder why it isn't mentioned because it sounds very good indeed on hmf. |
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- Posted by the_morden_man (Z4-Z5) Newmarket, O (My Page) on Mon, Jun 18, 12 at 21:45
| Interesting. Nobody mentioned a relatively new Kordes addition to the Fairytale series of roses. It is called 'Poseidon' and the best part is that unlike almost every other rose in this colour spectrum, this one actually has notable disease resistance. Another one in the more purple red spectrum and also a mini/groundcover, is a rose called 'Roxy'. I liken it to an improved version of Sweet Chariot in that it holds its colour better, is more heat tolerant and much more disease resistant than SC. It also has good fragrance, but just not as wafting as SC is known for. A better rose in every other regard however. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Poseidon
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- Posted by canadian_rose zone 3a (My Page) on Mon, Jun 18, 12 at 23:04
| My favorites are: Neptune Paradise Found Nicole Carol Miller Ahhhhhh!!! I grow them in pots. |
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| Thanks, Kim;I'm going to try to layer both Ex Von S and PS (I have no experience with taking cuttings,but have done layering with success).Too bad that a lot of the others mentioned in this thread are unavailable here in Europe...though since a lot are HT's (I think) I probably wouldn't be too interested; I don't much like the habit of bush HT's and only go for the climbers...bart |
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- Posted by Nippstress 5-Nebraska (My Page) on Tue, Jun 19, 12 at 15:14
| One that has been surprisingly prolific and healthy for me has been Pillow Talk, that I got when Cliff from Eurodesert sold his garden plants last year. Pillow Talk has happily survived my zone 5 winters and put out frequent reblooms of some nicely double mauve roses on a low growing plant. I consider this rose exactly what I think of when people say "mauve" - sort of a dusty pinkish purple that was popular in carpets in my grandparents' youth (certainly my grandmother had that color all over her house). The pictures on HMF are mostly from Beth, and mine has stayed the dusky purple with cream highlights rather than the hot pink in one photo. Only available from Vintage on HMF but we still have hopes for some form of survival from Vintage in years to come. Cynthia |
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| WOW!!!! I'm blown away with so many selections. Sure some are not for this area but many are. I've got my work cut out for me looking at all these. Any more from my area?? Thanks. Pembroke |
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| My vote is for Angel Face. I have to buy it every year because it is not hardy here. No other rose compares -love the ruffled petals. |
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