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Blackspot on Double Delight

Posted by zyperiris Seattle (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 28, 12 at 20:23

Ya know I sorta get it now...lol. I tried so hard not to use lots of chemicals. I got 2 Double Delights and a Ingrid Bergman rose own root. I planted them in pots..I had this vision how they would look. The foilage looks HORRIBLE. All this time people say to plant more disease resistant roses and give up on some of these..well I get it now


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RE: Blackspot on Double Delight

if you want HTs you gotta learn to live with blackspots

simple as that


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  • Posted by jim1961 5/6 central pa (My Page) on
    Thu, Jun 28, 12 at 22:46

I know your pain...


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I'm not a fan of Double Delight. It smells great, but the flowers aren't much to look at. Ingrid Bergman is an outstanding rose. I have many of her offspring (Olympiad, Opening Night, Cesar Chavez). All are excellent roses. All need to be sprayed or you just get sticks w/no leaves (been there, done that).


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Yes Ingrid is great..but she is a stick with blooms on the end..but I am starting to really dislike DD


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I LOVED the blooms DD produced (split centers and all) -- but I could not love the foliage, nor, frankly, the plant.

Even when we sprayed religiously, DD found a way to mildew. It is long-gone, but I do recall the blooms with some fondness. (Not, however, enough fondness to attempt again to grow it)

Jeri


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I love DD. Before I sprayed, it never bloomed. Even with Daconil, it did not do well. It does well on the Bayer Advanced Disease Control. DD should never be considered in a no spray garden.


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Yah..


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I can't imagine a garden without DD--I have two (plus a handful of other HTs and lots of non-HT types). You might try observing the temps/BS patterns in your region. In my area, we have BS season mostly in the spring and fall. Therefore, I spray 2-3 times in the spring and maybe 2 times in the fall. Rest of the year, DD and other roses can take care of themselves.

This is my compromise between spraying every 2 weeks all season long (as some recommend) and abolishing DD from my garden so that I don't have to spray at all. With my method, I try to get a lot of mileage out of a few spring and fall spraying and then can get by with no spray the rest of the time.

Of course you have to quit spraying in order to find out how resistant your rose is and when it is most likely going to be susceptible to BS so you can come up with a minimal schedule that fits your garden.

Fortunately, most of my roses are very good on disease-resistance, so there are only a few like DD that I have to keep an eye on. But I'd rather do that than not grow it at all. I think DD is a wonderful rose in most respects.

Kate


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  • Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
    Fri, Jun 29, 12 at 17:01

You learn to except the BS on the ones you really love or you spray. As long as they're roses whose blooms I adore I live with the spots and don't waste time and energy worrying about it anymore. For me DD is a keeper spots and all. Ingrid is doing better now that I moved her out to the new bed but is still no great shakes in the bloom department as far as I'm concerned. Her blooms are messy looking to me and blow too quickly. And she can't compare to DD for fragrance! Now if you really want a black spot magnet get Angel Face!


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I have not sprayed until last weekend. I agree with Jeri the foilage is just ugly. I am just not in love with this rose. I am going to get rid of it..I have so many other options why bother?


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I also cannot imagine a garden without DD - I just bought my second this year. And it's important to remember as far as "disease resistence" goes - that it is disease resistence for your specific climate.

In my hot dry climate, DD has no disease issues - no BS, no PM, no nothing. It is a tad light on foliage, but not remarkable. Ingrid Bergman on the other hand looks like a big, heavy, everngreen bush - the foliage is so thick and healthy. And IB's blooms are outrageous and last forever both on the bush or in a vase. I've had blooms last 4 weeks on the bush. And also not a spot of disease. Visually it is one of my best bushes.


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I don't care if the plant is a black spot disaster in most climates. Those flowers! One sniff will make you hiiiiiiiigh! And the color! It is the one rose everybody asks about walking by your yard.


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The flowers aren't much to look at?


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That's what I'm talking about. I have three and can't image a rose garden with out them, but thats why God gave us choices.


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Well if my blooms looked that good!


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Rosetom, the problem is that I might get one of those a season, and tens of others with crummy form. If my blooms looked like that consistently I'd plant a whole bunch of them. In fact, it was a picture very much like yours that got me to plant DD 5-6 years ago. False advertising I say! :)


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Nitric, that's my problem as well


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My DD did not bloom consistently until I sprayed it with Bayer. It will also get affected by thrips. But 90% of the time, the blooms are wonderful. Perhaps it likes hotter weather.


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Perhaps it likes hotter weather.

I think you got it, buford. My DD seems to thrive in hotter weather--can be kind of muddled looking earlier in spring. Seems to need that sun or heat to straighten out its color scheme.

Don't know for sure about Seattle, but is it a cooler and wetter region? If you want to grow DD, perhaps you need to pick the hottest spot in the garden, one with 8-10 hours of sun a day. That may be what it is missing.

Here's mine--not the best pic, but it shows off the dramatic coloring.
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Kate


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I think about 1 out of every 10 blooms on my DD's look that good. And I purchased a 2nd to get that 1 out of 10 blooms! No matter how they look, fragrance is amazing. To each, their own...


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dublin, the red color comes from sun. I have another rose, Diana Princess of Wales, that does the same thing. The more sun exposure, the redder it gets.

Here is a DD bloom that did not get any sun...

Here is one that got a lot of sun...

Here is one that is just right....


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Got rid of it years ago. If I have to spray to keep it, that means it doesn't belong here so I'd just as soon get rid of it and get something else. And so I did. It's nice but there are nicer roses.


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I grow DD and have no blackspot on it. The secret, you start spraying as soon as the leaves start coming out on the plant and repeat it every 10 days and you will have a clean garden
I have 450 roses and they all look nice and I don't have any dead birds or problems because of the spraying.


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