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I learned a hard lesson!

Posted by Sara-Ann z6b OK (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 6, 14 at 22:12

I failed to do something this year, that I should have taken the time to do and I learned a hard lesson. It is a step that when I plant roses I know I should do and sometimes I have, but not always. Usually it works out okay, but this year it didn't and while I am embarrassed, I feel like I should be honest. When I planted my bare roots I didn't mound them like you are supposed to until you begin seeing signs of growth. Most of them survived, but I can tell several of them aren't going to make it. I know better than to skip this step, but then I guess since most of the time it doesn't seem to make that much difference, I guess I thought it was okay to skip it, lesson learned. At first I blamed Edmunds, which were the first ones I planted, but when some of the others didn't make it, I knew what the culprit was, my own laziness. We've had some tremendous winds this spring, so that didn't help. There is no way I can justify skipping this step and I never will again! So for the ones that didn't make it, I will replace them next year and do it right!


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Yeah, mound and water well and water some more, then water again. I mounded them this year with alfalfa pellets. It worked well.
I learned a lot about overwintering roses in the garage - but I lost a lot of roses in the learning the first year.
Carol :)


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It may not be too late to save some of them, Sara-Ann. Mound them now as you would have earlier and see how they respond. Trevor Griffiths, the New Zealand rose nurseryman, wrote in one of his books how he took dried out bare roots customers returned, buried them in damp soil, then potted them to use as demonstrations in rose talks to show how the ill effects from what we do to bare roots can frequently be reversed.

Many years ago, in fact when Broadway was a brand new introduction, I bought two "damaged" bare roots which had been returned where I worked. Broadway was one which had been taken home and left to dry out in the package. Voodoo had been damaged either by someone being extremely rough with it, or during the harvest as the shank (root stock) was split from the bottom to the bud union as if someone had played, "make a wish" with it. I paid 50 cents each to experiment with them. I bound Voodoo's shank, planted and mounded it. Broadway was soaked in water over night, planted and mounded. Both grew beautifully. I did it because I read Mr. Griffith's book and wanted to prove it for myself. It worked! I think you might just be pleasantly surprised. Good luck! Kim


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I encourage you also, Sara, to continue to pamper those roses. Every so often we see a post here about someone who spaded a rose and dumped it on the compost pile or out by the alley -- only to discover some time later that, much to their surprise, the throw-away rooted itself and is growing fine. So you never know.

And if they all live, we will expect pics, of course. : )

Interesting experiment, Kim. Thanks for sharing that.

Kate


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Thank you Carol, Kim and Kate for the encouraging words and thanks for the suggestion, which I will try.


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It's also important to soak them in buckets overnight before planting, but I'm sure Sara-Annj knows that.

Instead of mounding, I have sprayed the canes of a batch or two with dormant-strength Wilt Pruf. That seemed to work fine in my climate, and saved some trouble. But with hot sun and low humidity, maximum coddling is in order, along with early planting.


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You're welcome, Sara-Ann and Kate. Often, they'll surprise the dickens out of you. It's well worth a try! Kim

This post was edited by roseseek on Sat, Jun 7, 14 at 12:32


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  • Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
    Sat, Jun 7, 14 at 12:31

I agree with the others. if there's any green left on them mound them now. It may not work but you have nothing to lose by trying. I've been amazed at how much some of my bare roots have managed to survive. I've left them in the packaging for days, soaking for weeks in a bucket and even forgotten to water them but in the end they all survived!


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That was quite a surprise many years ago when I "discovered" how difficult it was to actually "kill" a rose, once I understood what they wanted and made sure I provided it as best I could. They want to live and Nature has endowed them with all they need, as long as you do your part. Kim


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Thank you again, Michael, Seil and Kim, really appreciate the advice. And yes, Michael I do soak them before planting. Sometimes I do think something like this has to happen so I'll learn to do it right.


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You're welcome, Sara-Ann. It's these kinds of lessons we really learn from. If everything just worked so we never had to explore why they didn't, think about what we did and why it did or didn't work as expected, we'd never "learn" anything. Kim


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  • Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
    Sun, Jun 8, 14 at 11:59

And by sharing those experiences here we all get to learn from each other!


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