My most fragrant climber is Don Juan. My more english style fragrant roses are Generous Gardener and climbing Abe Darby, and Sceptered Isle and Golden Celebration. David Austin roses do well in Chicago. By far my most fragrant shrub like ht's are Double Delight and Memorial Day . Theses roses also repeat, which is important to me. So many wonderful choices.

Oh and Teasing Georgia.

Also, Joseph's coat, Aloha, ..... I could go on and on.

Gertrude Jekyll may be the world's most fragrant rose and does fine in my Chicago garden. It has the old rose fragrance that you expect. Jude the Obscure smells like grapefruit. Sharifa Asma is also strongly fragrant but some people don't like it. Evelyn is also good but not as strongly fragrant. Many Austin roses have some fragrance. Nahema (Delbard) is a good fragrant climber (Heritage is one of the parents). Roses with the myrrh fragrance smell like licorice.

Ok , soo now I want a Gertrude Jekyll. My Evelyn was a low spidery thing. Just got Nahema and climbing angel face this past spring. YumO.

Angel Face is very fragrant.

Here is a link that might be useful: HMF

Angel face is one of my favorites. Trying the climber this year. Clemmie,
do you have a color preference?

This is great, I got tons of info to research, Thank you!!
I have decided on the Aloha but it was sold out from the nursery I use.
Can anyone recommend reliable purveyor's? I'd like good established plants and am unsure how to avoid all the Spring Hills out there.
This is for my mum in laws yard, She is big in to strong colors and very partial to red. I'm trying to steer away from it tough as the house is white siding and has a massive maroon deck.
She already has three un-named roses, one large red scentless rambler I finally moved over to a chain link fence and two smaller ones blooming in red and yellow respectively.

Both planted in the beds flanking the maroon deck...
It's near impossible to see the red flowers lest you're right up there and the yellow looks quite brash and unwelcome against the maroon railing. I want to slowly phase those two out and replace it all with wafting fragrance and lots of repeat bloom.
They have a hammock on the deck and spend a lot of time outside in the evenings.
I may be in over my head with the Sombreuil & the Colette, I meant to place the Sombreuil next to a 10 ft. wall partition of the southwest corner of the deck, -the maroon deck, I planned on placing a Viticella Venosa Velocea clematis on the western exposure thinking they'll both meet and spill over somewhere on the top of the dreadful maroon blob.
Next issue: I grabbed the Colette as the Aloha and Polka was sold out, I read she'll reach up to 12 ft,
umm. The house is siding and I have no way of providing support past the standard trellises.
Is this a heavy rose?
There's a kitchen window further in on the wall about 8 ft above the ground.
I'm about to go out and hunt down industrial grade fishing line and wrap it tightly around the window frame so when she does get to that size where she'll begin to flop past the trellis we can string and guide the canes around the window and towards the maroon deck.
I really, really, am disinclined to plant a red rose in proximity to the deck. Problem is, the only other option is against the white house or the chain link fence that runs the length of the half acre yard.
(yes I'm scheming big time, I'm so on it.. I shall not rest until it is covered! )
In regards of the maroon decking,
Can anyone help me out in my lacking color theory?
Are my instinct's right in wanting to soften up and blend the maroon with lots of greens, pinks, whites and blues?
I want to give the lady what she wants but before we start popping in red everywhere I like to see the palette more evolved. I should say, the decking sits on a expansive lawn, like lawns tend to be out in the burbs it's like being placed in a netherland of green grass and nothing but sky and sharp angles of man made objects, yard after yard after yard, divided by chain link fence and roads only.

I would use peaches and apricots against the maroon...I wonder why you did not mention anything in this color range? So many beautiful roses out there! Polka would be beautiful against the Maroon. I 'm also amazed by my old Medallion Rose...Blooms early, repeats all summer, huge peachy colored blossoms, I have to work to keep it down where I can see the blooms on top..still blooming in December here long after black spot and rain have taken down most of the others.

And I would use Blush pink if it is deep maroon....or soft yellow.....or pale mauve. Almost anything other than red.

The Paul McCartney Rose, one of the most fragrant of my 100-odd rose bushes, grows to about 7' here in London, Ontario, and is much more fragrant than Aloha though its blooms shatter more quickly. It is a vibrant pink and completely disease free--- a winner.

Steve

Hi,
My apologies for barging in on this thread. IâÂÂm new to roses, I live in New Brunswick, Canada. I would like for âÂÂelksâÂÂ, who commented on this thread to contact me. Since he lives in Canada and is registered here for many years, I would appreciate information on where to get supplies in Canada.

arnoldroy@hotmail.ca
Thank you
Arnold

Hey hello!

No reason, I had a hunch about the peach but we tried a strong yellow rose and it looks awful!
I guess I'm a bit scared off from that experience, I went down to HD yesterday and found one of the mentioned above, Joseph's coat and was surprised to see how bright orange it is. Looks lovely but my mind just can;t compute how it'll look against maroon, genius or dreadful.

I'm trying to stay away from red as much as I can, but the problem is my mother in law prefers strong color,
I'm thinking a blush pink or peach would make for a nice contrast to the maroon. Which leaves the question if I should move the already purchased Colette to the partition, effectively displacing the Sombreuil and necessitate another purchase of a pink for the side of the house. ;)

Here's what is available at my local HD: PEACE, PINK PEACE MEIBIL,OLYMPIAD, MISTER LINCOLN, TIFFANY, SIMPLICITY, AMERICA, ICEBERG, JOSEPH'S COAT, DON JUAN.
If i were to find a replacement I want to find one that is not getting too out of hand, no more than 10 feet. tops.
Thank you again ya'all, have a splendid weekend!

Paint the porch. Lol. Too many beautiful choices. Peace...oh yum. Can be difficult in zone 5.

Oh, and Peace will not get taller than 3-5 ft. In zone 5.

America climber is a salmon pink color here in the hot desert. I don't know what color it reads there, because Joseph's Coat never looks orange here, but it is a fabulous climber to grow and could be a good choice. It is indestructible. It has been in the 100's to 110's here and America has not been without blooms since early April. I just deadheaded my last Don Juan's and still have fresh America blooms. Tiffany could look nice too.

I think you should consider the Kordesii roses from Kordes of Germany. They are a line of hardy, fragrant and beautiful climbers.

I have Rosarium Uetersen, which I think might work very well in your spot against the maroon background. It is truly one of the world's great roses. It is hardy, fragrant, beautiful and a continuous bloomer from spring to fall. It blooms so readily that it tends to spread rather than climb, so one should deadhead the first few years to induce it to climb. But, the flowers are so beautiful and the display so stunning, I can never bring myself to do so. This year I plan to enjoy the spring display and THEN deahead the rest of the summer. I think that is what I promised myself last year also.

Other Kordesii climbers are Larissa, Rosanna, and Laguna.

Here is a link that might be useful: Rosarium Uetersen on HMF

I love my Mr Lincoln rose, it has a heady, old fashion rose scent. I am planting more in my zone 5 cottage garden here in New England this spring. Not a climber, it is an attract rose. Good luck!

It's an oldie, but have you considered 'Stanwell Perpetual'? See the link below for more info and pics.

:-)

~Christopher

Here is a link that might be useful: 'Stanwell Perpetual' at HelpMeFind

If you're looking for a climber (something over 5 feet), the only ones you have at the local HD that climb are Joseph's coat and Don Juan, and the latter is iffy on hardiness in zone 5. You'd said that orange and dark red are out, so that means you'll have to look to mail order roses for your climbers.

As for no-spray ease of care, usually HD doesn't stock the particularly resistant roses for any zone, and your list is no exception. I suppose I could grow Olympiad or Tiffany or Iceberg in my zone without too much blackspotting, but if you're on the east coast or other moist zone 5 spots, all those HD roses are going to require more care or look less lush than you like. Since you're talking about a relatively small space, why not pick something that fits your qualifications better than these?

For climbers, I second Rotarium Utersen as a nice vivid coral that's nicely hardy in zone 5 - it's vivid enough for your mother in law and would play reasonably nicely with a maroon backdrop. Otherwise, you could do a nicely saturated "carnation" pink like Nahema (really double and a tremendous grower, fragrant) or a white with a vividpink edge on it like Harlekin and that might suit both your requirements.

You also might think of taking advantage of the Roses Unlimited $8 gallon sale for these roses (rosesunlimitedownroot.com) - nice ones that might meet your needs would include:

Climbers: Casino or Full Moon Rising - very double lemon yellow climbers
White Dawn or Silver Moon - not too big clear whites with nice hardiness in our zone - all four of these are mildly fragrant, but it's hard to find a fragrant climber within zone 5 that avoids the color schemes you mention

Floribundas: Easy Does it, Fragrant Apricot, Lawrence of Arabia, Singin' in the Rain - nicely saturated apricots, good rebloomers & hardy, Easy Does it being the darkest, but the least fragrant for me
Sexy Rexy - saturated medium pink, very reliable rebloomer

Traditional high centered HTs, nicely hardy in z5:
Apricot & light yellows & Blends of those: Dream Come True, Ruth Bell Graham, Yankee Doodle, Mme. Marie Curie
Saturated medium to blush pinks: Columbus Queen, Roberto Capucci, Perfume Delight (highly perfumey fragrant)

Some of those might blackspot for you. In your dilemma, my best recommendation would be Cherry Parfait, off the Roses Unlimited list - very hardy prolific blooms of white with vivid dark pink edges - that would satisfy the vivid as well as "play nicely with others" criteria. I like the fragrance of this one, but it's not knock your socks off fragrant like some of the others.

You could also look at the Vintage Gardens site and give a good home to any among hundreds of roses that would also meet your needs.

Cynthia

Lol, this so many wonderful selections I'm having a hard time picking!

I found a 3 gallon America rose at a private nursery, I remembered the name from this thread and it was the only fragrant rose in the lot, so I went for it.
It has a lovely salmon pink color that turned out to be a great compromise between the decking and white building.
The clematis Perle d' Azur is trained up the wall and the rose went in front of it next to a Clematis Arabella intended to scramble trough the border.
What surprised me was how much clay I found about 2 feet down while back digging the bed.
I dunked two bags of mushroom compost and mixed it up with two bags of fine gravel and one bag of sand but I'm kind of worried about what will happen to the root a few years down the line? Any predictions?
Is this enough amending ?

I left the hose on to soak the bush, a small trickle for about 45 mins, and when the bed was over flowing I turned it off and it took about 25 mins for the standing water to drain away. This was after I had replaced about 8'x2'x2' of the old dirt.

Anybody with more experience who can give me more insight on how this will play in to it's health?
There's a few spots on the leaves that I suspect is the dreaded blackspot.
I live inland, due west of Chicago, so not exactly coastal climate but still lots of humidity in the summer.
I made sure to clear about a foot between plant and wall and also at some distance from where another rosebush been before, I cleared about 2 feet from the original site but I essentially replaced all the dirt as well. I made sure of sinking the bush level with the dirt in the pot per instructions.

As far as I could discern, it's not a grafted plant, I felt up the trunk all the way down the to the ball of dirt and felt no bump.

I'm very drawn to the Romantica and English roses and am interested to learn more about the two series,
My new Colette is coming in this weekend with a Stormy weather who's supposedly a purple rose. These will be my trial experience before I commit to a full rose garden.

I understand ramblers only bloom once, no?
How do I know the difference between a rambler and a
climber?
What is the difference between a Grandiflora and a Wicheriiana?
My roses must be of the resilient kind and besides generous amounts of mushroom compost and a good trellis will have to fend for themselves. No spray, no chemicals.
I'm staying clear of any grafted stock and no Tea roses.
What would be the best US purveyors of either the Romantica or the English series? Is it possible to buy rootstock older than a year trough mail order?
Also, can anyone advice me on good online sources for reading up on the different categories ?

I'd like to hear from someone who grows the Zepherine Drouhin, Queen of Sweden, or the Polka in zone 5.
My priorities are as follows: Repeat bloom, disease resistance, fragrance, cut life, color...
God bless and thank you!
Kerstin

Oh vey, I just looked up a picture of Japanese Beetles.
Last year, after I moved two unamed roses, they were loused with these beetles! Like no foliage was showing for all the beetles crawling around on it!
I read they breed in the ground, does that mean they'll be back this year?
How do I deal with this? Do they go after Clematis as well or is this restricted to roses only?
Anything I can do to nip it on the bud? I haven't seen any grubs in the dirt while digging but plenty of those lil brown ones that looks like a bug version of a armadillo..
Any advice greatly appreciated!

No suggestions Thistle Thrower, but please post pictures next spring!

Sunny