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charleney 8a PNW (
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Fri, Jul 6, 12 at 7:26
| Am I doing something wrong. Usual BS spraying and fertilizing. Should I cut it off very short and start pruning more heavily. Right now it is about 4'tall and looks like a bunch of dead blooms. Oh it bloomed, but wondering if I just prune deadheads off much deeper, if it will make me happy. I have two of them in different locations and they are both the same behavior. Someone once said 'pile of sticks'. |
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RE: unhappy with Traviata
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| It's not clear to me what you are unhappy about. Defoliation? Growth habit? |
RE: unhappy with Traviata
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- Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 6, 12 at 14:21
| I agree with Michael, what is the specific problem you have with them? If it's simply the growth habit then you need to find a different rose. All roses have different growth habits. I've never cared for Hot Cocoa because it likes to send out branches in all kinds of odd, angular directions. It's always a gawky looking thing. |
RE: unhappy with Traviata
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 6, 12 at 16:31
| Mine got very very tall so I would take off 3' or more with every deadheading, but like the other posters, I wonder what problem are you trying to solve. |
RE: unhappy with Traviata
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| Oh no....I just bought one today for half price. It is in excellent health both lots of buds, so I could not resist. I will be checking back to see what exactly the problem is with this rose. I just love red roses! Lesley |
RE: unhappy with Traviata
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| The problem is Blackspot...when no other roses in my 1/4 acre has much of a problem at all. I use the Bayer advanced disease control. I really don't like the form, I guess. Will try to cut down about 3' off, and see if it makes me happy. Goodbye if not! I might like it if I had a window that I was worried about someone accessing it. I think it would deter anyone from trying to get in. Anyway I am not a happy girl! Thanks for the help. Will try one more time. |
RE: unhappy with Traviata
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| Traviata is susceptible to cercospora spot disease but is considered above average in blackspot resistance--though it does get some blackspot in my garden if not sprayed. However, the Bayer tebuconazole product should control both diseases. I don't know how to explain defoliation unless (a) you skipped spraying for a month or (b) blackspot in you garden is developing resistance to tebuconazole. I haven't heard of the latter happening. I agree Traviata does better with industrial-strength deadheading, stems 2-3' long |
RE: unhappy with Traviata
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| A few years ago, I had 2 or 3 Traviata and eventually got rid of them. The thorns were awful! |
RE: unhappy with Traviata
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| There are two rose varieties named Traviata. One is dark red (said to be highly disease-resistant) and the other has petals with a white base blushing to red edges. A Pink Traviata is also in commerce. Which one do you have? |
Here is a link that might be useful: listings for Traviata on HelpMeFind
RE: unhappy with Traviata
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| I have the dk. red. You hit the cersospora right on the head there michaelg. I sprayed once more with Bayer advanced disease control. Looks better in that aspect..but still going to prune it back the 3'. Thanks so much everyone. |
RE: unhappy with Traviata
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| I agree that Traviata has a close, upright habit; air does not circulate that well in the plant. Also, it's a bit coarse, though a good colour. That said, I forgive it everything (even having no scent) as it flowers like crazy even in high temps. I have it at the end of the garden, among other plants as I don't feel it's glamorous enough for pride of place. But it is useful and tough, which are virtues not to be sneezed at! |
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