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is this crown gall on my new young lycidas?

Posted by Dinglehopp3r 7a East TN (My Page) on
Thu, Jul 31, 14 at 14:37

Hello all, I just purchased this Young Lycidas from my local garden center yesterday, they had a few roses left from spring and they were on sale so I picked this YL out of the 3 they had & had planned on putting it in a big pot for now with possible future plans of planting it in the ground. I was watering today I noticed a break in the bark on the graft, and an ugly textured area in the center of the break, of course I ran immediately to the internet and googled "crown gall" & all the photos I see have big protruding tumors. This suspicious area is not bulging out, it is flat to the cane, but could it just be the beginning symptom? Please someone tell me, is this the dreaded crown gall???

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I call your attention to the oval shaped part in the middle of the graft.
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& from the side:
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I have read several posts in the last few minutes on gall & some people say they just live with it, but I am too afraid of infecting any of my other plants to even grow this in a pot nearby, my garden space is too small and too precious to risk it.


thanks for any help!

Jessica


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RE: is this crown gall on my new young lycidas?

  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Thu, Jul 31, 14 at 14:45

Looks like a healed-over scar. Is it all quite hard? A real close up photo would help.

Just keep your eye on it for a while. Leave it in a pot until next spring. If you can pull off soft bits that are like cork, that's gall. Stays hard and looking like it is now--just a scar.


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RE: is this crown gall on my new young lycidas?

You are right, I needed a better photo, here are a couple. It is hard to the touch, but I can scratch it with my fingernail...... Just something about the texture of that area looks real funky.

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Also, the little flake of bark came up easily when I started poking at it, I don't know if that is bad or normal......


Thank you!

Jessica


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RE: is this crown gall on my new young lycidas?

  • Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
    Thu, Jul 31, 14 at 16:49

I have to agree with hoovb, that looks more like a scar than a gall. The galls I've seen were knobby looking protrusions and not depressions like yours is. Keep an eye on it and see if it grows or changes in any way.


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RE: is this crown gall on my new young lycidas?

Thank you both for your prompt responses. It probably isn't gall but just to make myself feel like I have done all I can to prevent a gall outbreak in my garden, I went ahead and took the offending rose back. When I was at the nursery yesterday I noticed they had 3 Young Lycidas left, & they let me swap it out for another of the remaining two. Since I won't have another day off for a bit and the nursery isn't that far away, I decided that the small chance of it being gall was scary enough to warrant the extra drive. I know myself and the constant worry I would have had over that little blemish would have driven me crazy. The YL specimen that I just returned home with is a little smaller than the first, but it will catch up to the other in time, totally worth not having to constantly second guess my decisions, I do that enough as it is!


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