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Long List - Pick Your 5 Favorite Crosses of 2013!

AndrewBarocco
10 years ago

Ok everyone so now that the dust has settled on my hybridization efforts this year I took a complete and official survey of every single successful cross I've done this year. Note that I had many hip drops as I worked with varying degrees of ploidy level but theses are ONLY the successful fertilizations.I know it's difficult to achieve something great in only one generation but my current seeings are still young so this is what I'm working with. I'd love and appreciate everyone's opinion on what my 5 best/most hopeful/unique/unheard of crosses are. One thing is for sure...I'll be doing a lot of stratification this winter! Anyway, all thought and opinions are appreciated. [Alphabetically listed below] Rank your 5 favorite of my crosses:

(Abraham Darby x Black Baccara)
(Abraham Darby x Graham Thomas)
(Abraham Darby x Knock Out)
(Abraham Darby x Melody Parfumée)

(Angel Face x Dr. Huey)
(Angel Face x Easy Does It)

(Blue Girl x Mrs. B. R. Cant)
(Blue Girl x R. bracteata ‘Banana’ *)
(Blue Girl x Stormy Weather)
(Blue Girl x Twilight Zone)

(Brite Eyes x Abraham Darby)
(Brite Eyes x Carefree Sunshine)
(Brite Eyes x Dee-lish)
(Brite Eyes x Knock Out)
(Brite Eyes x Milwaukee’s Calatrava)
(Brite Eyes x Night Owl)
(Brite Eyes x Stormy Weather)
(Brite Eyes x Twilight Zone)

(Burgundy Iceberg x Dortmund)
(Burgundy Iceberg x Honey Perfume)

(Carefree Celebration x Carefree Sunshine) 2
(Carefree Celebration x Dortmund)
(Carefree Celebration x Night Owl)
(Carefree Celebration x Peggy Martin)
(Carefree Celebration x Prairie Star)
(Carefree Celebration x Stormy Weather)
(Carefree Celebration x Thomas Affleck)
(Carefree Celebration x Thrive!)
(Carefree Sunshine x Carefree Spirit)
(Carefree Sunshine x Cinco de Mayo)
(Carefree Sunshine x Coral Sea)
(Carefree Sunshine x Dee-lish)
(Carefree Sunshine x Easy Does It) 4
(Carefree Sunshine x Livin Easy) 2
(Carefree Sunshine x Night Owl)
(Carefree Sunshine x Pope John Paul II)
(Carefree Sunshine x Prairie Star)
(Carefree Sunshine x Purple Passion)
(Carefree Sunshine x Shockwave) 2
(Carefree Sunshine x Sunny Knock Out)
(Carefree Sunshine x Traviata)

(Coral Sea x Dr. Huey)
(Coral Sea x Lavender Veranda)
(Coral Sea x Sport of Mardi Gras **)
(Coral Sea x Thrive!)
(Coral Sea x Virginia)

(Crocus Rose x Abraham Darby)
(Crocus Rose x Dee-lish)
(Crocus Rose x Twilight Zone)

(Dortmund x Angel Face)
(Dortmund x Basye’s Purple)
(Dortmund x Betty Boop)
(Dortmund x Bride’s Dream)
(Dortmund x Brite Eyes)
(Dortmund x Carefree Sunshine)
(Dortmund x Carefree Wonder) 2
(Dortmund x Easy Does It)
(Dortmund x Peppermint Pop)
(Dortmund x Playboy) 2
(Dortmund x Rainbow Knock Out)
(Dortmund x Stormy Weather)
(Dortmund x Sunny Knock Out)
(Dortmund x Tequila Supreme)
(Dortmund x Walking On Sunshine)

(Double Red Knock Out x Coral Sea)
(Double Red Knock Out x Lavender Veranda aka KORfloci67)

(Dr. Huey x Playboy)
(Dr. Huey x Sport of Mardi Gras **)

(Easy Does It x Angel Face)
(Easy Does It x Golden Celebration)

(Francis Meilland x Abraham Darby)
(Francis Meilland x Brite Eyes)
(Francis Meilland x Carefree Delight)
(Francis Meilland x Graham Thomas)
(Francis Meilland x Lavender Meidiland)
(Francis Meilland x Milwaukee’s Calatrava)
(Francis Meilland x Mrs. B. R. Cant)
(Francis Meilland x R. bracteata) 2
(Francis Meilland x Sharifa Asma)

(Golden Celebration x Angel Face)
(Golden Celebration x Sharifa Asma)

(Graham Thomas x Brite Eyes)
(Graham Thomas x Lavender Meidiland) 2
(Graham Thomas x Stormy Weather) 2
(Graham Thomas x Thrive!)
(Graham Thomas x Twilight Zone)

(In The Mood x La Marne)

(Knock Out x Golden Celebration)
(Knock Out x R. bracteata ‘Banana’ *)

(L. D. Braithwaite x Dick Clark)
(L. D. Braithwaite x In The Mood)

(Livin Easy x L. D. Braithwaite)
(Livin Easy x Lavender Meidiland)
(Livin Easy x Pink Double Knock Out)
(Livin Easy x Sharifa Asma)
(Livin Easy x Summer Sunshine)

(Mrs. B. R. Cant x Carefree Sunshine)
(Mrs. B. R. Cant x Citrus Splash)
(Mrs. B. R. Cant x Easy Does It)
(Mrs. B. R. Cant x Thrive!)

(New Dawn x Angel Face)
(New Dawn x Blue Girl)
(New Dawn x Coral Sea)
(New Dawn x Pope John Paul II)
(New Dawn x Summer Sunshine) 2

(Night Owl x Easy Does It)
(Night Owl x Summer Sunshine)

(Pink Double Knock Out x Brite Eyes) 2

(Playboy x Double Red Knock Out) 2
(Playboy x Francis Meilland)
(Playboy x L. D. Braithwaite)
(Playboy x R. bracteata ‘Banana’ *)
(Playboy x The Fairy)

(Proud Land x Abraham Darby)
(Proud Land x Ballerina)
(Proud Land x Black Baccara)
(Proud Land x Brite Eyes)
(Proud Land x Golden Celebration)
(Proud Land x In The Mood) 2
(Proud Land x L. D. Braithwaite)
(Proud Land x Lavender Meidiland)
(Proud Land x Pink Double Knock Out)
(Proud Land x Sharifa Asma)
(Proud Land x Shockwave)
(Proud Land x Sunshine Daydream)
(Proud Land x Walking on Sunshine)

(Queen Elizabeth x Carefree Wonder)
(Queen Elizabeth x Coral Sea)
(Queen Elizabeth x Playboy)
(Queen Elizabeth x Tequila Supreme)

(Shockwave x Dortmund)
(Shockwave x Stormy Weather)
(Shockwave x Summer Sunshine)
(Shockwave x Sunshine Daydream)
(Shockwave x In The Mood)

(Smooth Ballerina x Carefree Celebration)
(Smooth Ballerina x Easy Does It)
(Smooth Ballerina x Night Owl)
(Smooth Ballerina x Thomas Affleck)
(Smooth Ballerina x Twilight Zone)

(Stormy Weather x Angel Face)
(Stormy Weather x Black Baccara)
(Stormy Weather x Burgundy Iceberg)
(Stormy Weather x Milwaukee’s Calatrava)
(Stormy Weather x Mrs. B. R. Cant)
(Stormy Weather x Souv. de Mme. Leonie Viennot)

(Summer Sunshine x Twilight Zone)

(Sunsprite x Double Red Knock Out)
(Sunsprite x Sharifa Asma)

(Sweet Drift x Lavender Veranda)
(Sweet Drift x R. bracteata ‘Banana’ *)

(Sweetness x Blue Girl)
(Sweetness x R. bracteata ‘Banana’ *)

(The Fairy x Summer Sunshine)

(Thomas Affleck x Brite Eyes) 2
(Thomas Affleck x Carefree Delight)
(Thomas Affleck x Citrus Splash) 4
(Thomas Affleck x Easy Does It)
(Thomas Affleck x Graham Thomas)
(Thomas Affleck x Hi Neighbor)
(Thomas Affleck x Lavender Meidiland)
(Thomas Affleck x Stainless Steel)
(Thomas Affleck x Unknown 100% Thornless Rose) 3

(Thrive! x Brite Eyes)
(Thrive! x Carefree Celebration)
(Thrive! x Ch-Ching)
(Thrive! x Double Red Knock Out)
(Thrive! x Easy Does It) 2
(Thrive! x Honey Perfume) 3
(Thrive! x Peggy Martin)
(Thrive! x Proud Land)
(Thrive! x R. roxburghii plena)
(Thrive! x Sharifa Asma)
(Thrive! x Stormy Weather)
(Thrive! x Thomas Affleck)
(Thrive! x White Licorice)

(Twilight Zone x Black Baccara)
(Twilight Zone x Miss All American Beauty)
(Twilight Zone x Night Owl)
(Twilight Zone x Shockwave)
(Twilight Zone x Stormy Weather)

*A cultivar I accidentally discovered after observing 4 different populations of R. bracteata. I found a single plant which differed from other individuals by producing flowers of a truly overwhelming banana fragrance! I was amazed at how much it smelled like banana, even after the blooms had been removed from the plant for 2 days. I understand it's one of the rarest scents in roses so I'm excited about the possibility of carrying this trait forward into my breeding program. I know there is a slight banana fragrance reported by others in this species but as this individual stands out I suspect it's either a mutation, over expression of the gene or genes or just extremely homozygous recessive for banana.

**A sport of Mardi Gras I found that has some striping on the petals and a strange black pepper fragrance.

Comments (9)

  • canadian_rose
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Banana!!! How unique! Luck you :)
    I hope you'll post pictures next spring!!
    Carol

  • jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Cool stuff! :)

  • ken-n.ga.mts
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Bluegirl x Mrs. B. R. Cant
    Crocus Rose x Twightlight Zone
    Graham Thomas x Stormy Weather
    Stormy Weather x Mrs. B. R. Cant
    Summer Sunshine x Twilight Zone

  • nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Easy Does It x Angel Face
    Easy Does It x Golden Celebration

    Golden Celebration x Angel Face

    Twilight Zone x Black Baccara
    Twilight Zone x Night Owl

    I'd love these crosses, too:

    Ascot x Munstead Wood
    Ascot x Twilight Zone

    Augusta Luise x Easy Does It

    Evelyn x Easy Does It

    Golden Celebration x Julia Child

    Munstead Wood x Twilight Zone

    Just doing some fantasizing. I'd love to see some photos of your results. Diane

  • nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Wow, these are just the successful crosses? It makes my eyes cross to think of dabbling in breeding roses some day, given that on average only 1 out of 1000 are usually "keepers" in eve proceeding to the next level of breeding.

    Here are my picks - I'd love to see the darker colors on the really double scented roses, if they kept the best qualities of the parents:
    (Abraham Darby x Black Baccara)
    (Blue Girl x Stormy Weather)
    (Twilight Zone x Night Owl)
    (Night Owl x Easy Does It)
    (New Dawn x Blue Girl)

    Cynthia

  • AndrewBarocco
    Original Author
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks everyone for the comments so far. It seems crosses involving Twilight Zone or any of the mauves are heavily favored, and I don't blame you! Twilight Zone just came out this year but it is such a gorgeous rose, and definitely an improvement over Ebb Tide. Diane, in my opinion I think you have the right idea with using Ascot in breeding. Cynthia, there is no time like the present, and don't be intimidated by the numbers! When they say worth keeping they mean is having commercial and market value, and most of the fun in rose breeding isn't about money or finding americas next super-rose, it's the anticipation of what you might get. Also every breeder, like roses, is unique and has his or her own personality and I believe that is reflected in the roses each breeder comes up with. For example I bet when I mention the names Radler, Swim, Carruth, David Austin, Moore, Sproul, etc. a certain type of rose comes to mind. I'm not sure I have a defined "style" yet but rest assured I am determined to revolutionize roses in my own way. My dream/goal is is to create thornless fragrant shrub roses, in beautiful colors, high petal count, with the disease resistance of knock outs. Some people say well that's just the perfect rose but l believe there's no such thing and never will be since different people value certain traits more than others. Sure my goal is ambitious, but just watch, eventually I will succeed! :)

  • growing_rene2
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    How fun! I would love to see
    Queen Elizabeth x Coral Sea and
    New Dawn x Blue Girl

  • growing_rene2
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    And then.....
    Livin Easy x Summer Sunshine
    New Dawn x Pope John Paul II
    Blue Girl x R. bracteata ‘Banana’

  • AndrewBarocco
    Original Author
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    growing_rene, thanks, I can't wait to see those too! Of course I can't wait to see all of my crosses because they're my babies. About 'New Dawn' it's interesting because it's one of the few triploids I know of that will happily accept most tetraploid pollen. This leads me to assume triploid roses like New Dawn, must produce more 2n egg cells than 1n. I'll be sure to post pictures next year of all of the crosses that produce surviving seedlings. From what I hear 'Queen Elizabeth' and 'Livin Easy' produce seeds that sprout easier than most and pass on desirable traits. Breeding and growing roses from seeds is so addicting lol!