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Thu, Jul 19, 12 at 18:21
| Hello to all. I am an experienced perennial and annual seed starter -- I am a newbie to Roses. I�ve enjoyed lurking on the forum for a few months now, hoping to gain from everyone�s experience, wisdom and humor. I have a few questions:
I bought roses in spring of 2011 from Heirloom. Antiques and floribundas. I was STUNNED at how small they were (and expensive). For some reason I expected bushes. (duh) Anyway, now that I know better I just bought 6 more from their half price sale. I intend to pot them up and baby them until late autumn when I will put them out in full sun. (I am in middle TN. We got no rain for the month of June and 6 inches in 10 days in July). I potted the 2011 ones in a mixture of moisture control potting soil, composted manure and peat moss. Question 1: Is this the best soil mixture for pots? I only buy roses that are described as disease resistant (cause I don�t believe in spraying) and very fragrant (cause I am growing roses primarily for fragrance/vase). I have discovered that fragrance doesn�t necessarily mean vase staying power (or I am cutting them at the wrong phase of bloom or something). Question 2: could someone recommend fragrant roses good for cutting and lasting in a vase? I bought 2 Mr. Lincoln�s and an Olympiad at Kmart this year in gallon pots. They are thriving and of course, intensely fragrant. However, they are in a bed that gets super hot late sun and it�s frying the blooms. Question 3: Is there an easy way to provide temp shade until I transplant? Question 4: What stage of bloom is the best time to cut them for the vase? When the sepals unfurl? I am following the proper vase preparation procedures and cutting them again underwater etc. I�m doing my very best not to cut from the OGR�s , floribundas and HT�s that are just babies but it is DIFFICULT. Question 4: I bought a nearly dead $5 "Peace" CL in a 2 gallon pot last summer from Lowes. It has put on 6 or more feet of growth. I have heard Peace only grows on old wood? Correct? Thanks everybody and I look forward to hanging out here as I have definitely caught Rose Fever!!!! and thus far no pest or disease issues. I am fertilizing well too and watering well. Being a good novice and going by the "book". I�ll be happy to reveal names of my roses if anyone�s interested in commenting. |
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| I think it is pretty hard to find good cutting roses that are super fragrant. I have heard that the genes for fragrance are kind of opposed to the ones for lasting ability as a cutting roses. I sometimes combine both kinds of roses in my bouquets that I sell. For myself I could always go cut a new branch of the fragrant ones when they start deteriorating. Some of my customers are happy to pay for a bouquet of fragrant JUDE THE OBSCURE, or other Austins, just to have the pleasure for as long as it lasts..(I include other flowers with staying power in the arrangement). I am now watching the roses that come from Palatine, especially Kordes roses listed as being very fragrant. I have planted quite a few of them this year and greatly look forward to having enough to play with! With not so fragrant but beautiful roses use rosemary, lavender or mint as foliage in arrangements. |
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| Roses in my garden that I think are great for cutting with wonderful fragrances: 1. Double Delight - definitely on the top of the list |
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- Posted by flaurabunda 6a, Central IL (My Page) on Sat, Jul 21, 12 at 14:16
| I'm about a full zone north of you, but I've had good luck with these for fragrance & cutting: Tahitian Sunset (and I never have to spray it for BS) |
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- Posted by poorbutroserich none (My Page) on Sun, Jul 22, 12 at 11:50
| Thanks to everyone. I guess I started out starry eyed thinking that a few rose bushes would give me armfuls of beautiful fragrant bouquets for my home! Now I know better. Patience is a virtue. |
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| If your 'Olympiad' is "intensely fragrant," it's probably not 'Olympiad.' I am the only person I know who can smell it, and even so, I can claim only a light, sweet fragrance. You might want to check locally, though, about disease-resistance. 'Double Delight' mildews nastily in my part of Southern California -- and I have no clue about blackspot. Jeri |
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- Posted by lola-lemon none (My Page) on Sun, Jul 22, 12 at 21:46
| Secret, Elle, and Pope john paul ii are my picks today. Maybe your intensely fragrant Olympiad is really Oklahoma?? |
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